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Concerns...

The announcement was not a joke, it's very real.

While we appreciate and accept that some people have genuine fears for the safety and release of this information, rest assured, we've had plenty of time between tests to assess and digest as many different scenarios as can come to mind, and even some that are so far off the scale as to make the mind boggle.

We're not afraid of anyone at this point in time. If "they", whoever "they" may be, wish to come and see us, I'm not at all sure what would happen, but I do know this, we are each quite stubborn individuals, and we cannot be swayed easily.

Personally, I very strongly doubt we will ever get a visit of any kind.

Besides, we are 3 individuals, in 3 different countries, and we don't make any moves without the express consent of each other, so how can anyone force anything upon a pact like that?

Generally what "they" do when a situation like this arises, is completely ignore it in the hope that it loses momentum and simply fades away. We do aim to verily exploit that line of reasoning.

We have already taken the appropriate steps at securing and spreading our concept among selected/trusted friends should something silly/unforseen happen, but we're quite confident that nothing like that will transpire, thus again, we have no expectation of ever being visited by anyone, for any reason.

We made our position quite clear several days ago when we said we had no desire to discuss anything with any company or any corporation, and we stand by that.

This is a completely private venture, and will remain so. It's for that very reason we're going about things the way we are.

Energetic forum,

The use of water as a viable fuel is now a reality.


I've been asked to make a special public announcement here on behalf of my team, regarding the project we've been secretly working on, namely, getting any and all engines to run without the use of fossil based fuels.

The regular readers of this forum would already be aware that Tutanka, Moose53, and myself, have been diligently plugging away at resolving this issue, and we would now like to state publicly that we have succeeded.

** We have discovered the secret of Stan Meyer's water as fuel concept, and it's now been proven beyond a doubt, thus we will soon be in a position to publicly confirm all of the processes required to make any engine run on this new fuel(essentially water).

We are presently in the process of putting together a valid proof of concept disclosure.

Please allow us a few short weeks to get that done, upon which time, we will go viral and make a general media announcement.

There is still much to do with regard to addressing a marketing approach, and we will be seeking the advices of the people expert in those fields, when the right time comes, but for now, we simply ask that everyone remain patient and allow us to get on with the task at hand, thereby allowing us to get this project to completion in the shortest possible time.

We formally ask that everyone please respect our privacy and refrain from slowing us down by asking questions of us here on the forum. We also ask that people please stop sending us PM messages for now too.

We need to apply all our time and focus on what we're doing, thus, for us to take the time to respond to any questions is only slowing us down, as well as slowing down the release of this technology.

**We will endeavour to release updates here as soon as we deem that they are warranted or appropriate.

Thank you for being patient.

Meanderings...

For fear of attracting unwanted criticism, I'll now refer to the coil wraps as meanders.

I use this link as support for the name change, and I'd like everyone to see what "meandering" around with this principal appears to do when employed elsewhere.

Water splitting by HF

Note the number of "meanders" in those pics?

Suggestions...

Just don't look down Jeff......don't look down.

Understood

I agree, I just wanted to let you know that we are causing concern.

Our covering of this topic could and indeed should, be looked at postively, for if we highlight that this particular principal has merit, as I believe it does, it can only boost sales for the inventor, which can't be a negative thing.

I'm more than happy to purchase these products directly from the designer, and likely will, after I've established what I require. Yet as we are only guessing at this stage, as to what this principal is truly capable of, and it could be that we require modifications away from the original design, which the designer could have covered, and exploited should he have the desire to do so, thus, it's puzzling that they have adopted this stance. Hmmmm.

I'd have liked the inventor to have offered his assistance in determining what, in fact, could be the best approach to solving the puzzle, as he sees it.

With regard to that battery cable you made, I've seen this principal before, many years ago, yet for the life of me, I can't recall where.

You need to cut that long length off the end of it, and just fit the coil at a certain point along the existing line, the distance?? Who knows? The actual positioning of the coil is not known yet, but I feel it's crucial to achieving any gain. "Tuning" this thing will perhaps be time consuming. Input from the inventor could have saved time.

I note that certain UHF antennas use 4 wraps on the coil, and sometimes 2x4 wraps, and as such, we could perhaps be barking up the wrong tree here, with regard to the amount of wraps we require for our purposes, so without assistance from anyone, we are only left to look into this for ourselves.

Ahhh, the road is ever long.......

Aaron

I've just recieved an email from the Kikers, and they're not happy that their product is being discussed and shown on this site, and they've asked for it to be removed.

Untapped potential

Hi everyone,

I think the 5 wrap coil may have several applications which could benefit us here.

When I look at patent #1, I reason that there could be a positive result when incorporating this design into a power supply link/cable to a HHO gen.

Could it "boost" the electrolysis event in both "brute force" and PWM controlled HHO gens?

In fact, all 5 patents are highly interesting to me.

I have information here which suggests that the position of the 5 wrap coil, relative to the length of the cable, and intended purpose, has a direct bearing on the results obtained. It could be that we will need to "tune" the cable for optimum results.

Also, when applying the 5 wrap coil to a spark plug lead, again, the positioning of the 5 wrap coil will need to be "tuned" for optimum gain.
About 6 inched between the end of the lead that connects to the spark plug looks to be the starting point. Moving the coil + or - and inch or so, may affect the spark potential, so special care needs to be given to this.

Regards,
Ross.

Excellent link

I thank you kindly for posting that link, it reinforces the theory and sheds new light on aspects that have been kept quiet to date.

I still think what we are seeing here:
YouTube - HHO experiement with horizontal stainless mesh cell
Is perhaps where the answer lies.

I feel the output of this cell, meaning volume, being "injected" into the combustion chamber, then ignited with a Firestorm plug, perhaps delivered by a Nology lead, will see a suitably robust combustion being achieved, with the HHO content as the bonus to keeping it all happening.

Robert Krupa alluded to a phenomena becoming apparent when the stoic level was doubled to 30 to 1, I feel this is where the "secret" lies, and will be realised most, once the metering is correctly set to where that mixture can be held onto. I reason that the low output of a HHO gen, as we are used to seeing, can be "stretched" out to realise this 30 to 1 ratio with careful metering.

There needs to be a suitable injector made, and I think there are a few people playing around with that right now.

I have recently completed a series of tests with standard "J" gap spark plugs, indexed to the best firing positions, and topped off with a comparison to the Brisk HOR15LGS multi firing point plug, the results are interesting as it clearly shows a temperature reduction along the lines of what Robert Krupa alluded to with his Firestorm, although not as extreme as what he achieved, it's still a lot closer to what he managed than what you can get with a standard "J" gapped plug.

This link will get you to where you can see the temperature changes apparent in the indexed standard "J" gapped plugs, as opposed to the Brisk concept plugs.
Spark plug indexing versus concept plug tests will begin this weekend. | OldHolden.com

Follow the relevant links from there.

I believe the current HHO boosters are sufficient for the task, it's just getting the "mixture" right.

Curious


Who made this actual plug?

What result was achieved in testing?