JOe Cell research
#15 ·
Thanks for posting this! 
Ozicell
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Geet
Hi Ash,
I just watched the latest on Geet, very interesting - thanks!
Cheers
Ozi
ashtweth wrote:
According to the MIT research paper on their GEET variant "Plasmatron", (MIT uses electricity to create the plasma where the GEET is self generating)
"If average fuel efficiency of US fleet of cars and light duty vehicles is increased by 20%, yearly fuel savings would be 25 billion gallons of gasoline (equivalent to 70% of oil presently imported from the Middle East)"
A simple 20-25% saving can be done by a OPEN SOURCE basic booster system. Then add the co2 then add the hydrocarbons that could be reduced = public health. The only other modifications which are low cost and can cut the carbon foot print as or more significantly are are the Encopra,Retofit/SPAD (GEET variants are do now kits) and the GEET.
A friend in India recently told me that:
"I am right now in the state of Punjab in India, and there are millions of agricultural pumpsets using diesel and polluting. Since Power is in shortage, every business and household has his own 3/5 kw unit which create so much of noise and pollution that it is impossible to breathe."
Lets get them out there.
GEET
Hydroxy Gas
Ash
I just watched the latest on Geet, very interesting - thanks!
Cheers
Ozi
Misting
The thing is that by using the ultrasonic method, your are feeding a vapour into the carbie, and un - misted additive will be left in the misting chamber. If this is the case, it may be just a matter of making a sump for collection and you have just got around the additive issue. On the other hand, if the additive are misting as well, then you have got around the problem anyway!
Cheers
Ozi
Jetijs wrote:
What is the temperature when the gasoline ignates? Is it safe to heat it to 700 degree F? Anyway, even if not all the gasoline will be evaporated at lower temperatures, this should still give much bigger economy than fuel injection or common carburetors, right? So what would be the highest safe temperatures that I could use to heat the gasoline?
Cheers
Ozi
Clogged carbie
BTW I tried fuel heating which definitely improved economy but fouled the carbie with unwanted additives. Maybe your vapouriser will get around this problem.
Ozi
BTW I tried fuel heating which definitely improved economy but fouled the carbie with unwanted additives. Maybe your vapouriser will get around this problem.
Ozi
Water Gasoline mix
Hi Jetis,
I am in awe of your youtube you did!
I have been running straight water through the inlet manifold for a while now with the positive effect that I believe it has helped clean the cylinders. No change to fuel economy up or down and no - I haven't run my plugs with this mix! If you can, could you make up a gasoline water mix and re-run your experiment with the vapouriser please. I believe that the extra energy released from the gasoline vapour may have a positive effect on the water vapour. Add to the equation the water spark plug circuit and we could be on the money!
I have just about finalised a set of plugs for Ash as promised and I hope from now on, I have removed most of the bugs making them. I'll be interested in his test results with them.
Cheers
Ozi
Hi Jetis,
I am in awe of your youtube you did!
I have been running straight water through the inlet manifold for a while now with the positive effect that I believe it has helped clean the cylinders. No change to fuel economy up or down and no - I haven't run my plugs with this mix! If you can, could you make up a gasoline water mix and re-run your experiment with the vapouriser please. I believe that the extra energy released from the gasoline vapour may have a positive effect on the water vapour. Add to the equation the water spark plug circuit and we could be on the money!I have just about finalised a set of plugs for Ash as promised and I hope from now on, I have removed most of the bugs making them. I'll be interested in his test results with them.
Cheers
Ozi
JOe Cell research
#7 ·
ashtweth wrote:
Jeff,
Sorry i missed the part of your post last night, was up late, that's amazing you got it running like you did, that's as far as i ever heard any one getting that i trust. This starts to remind me of the Ntiro cell, and how sensitive it is due to certain factors of the engine bay etc. I know wayne personally, this is just some thing to keep in mind, he states for the D18 cell (was not in the original instructions)
Cell must be away from engine block as you don't want electromagnetic mutual inductance from the cell to the engine
outer side of inner tube surface area should equal surface area of inner side of outer tube electric fields must be the same
horizontal tube mount for highway driving
vertical mount for city driving
solid wire roughly 0.2mm one winding around cell
-end
Mate if you have residual voltage form the cell, then perhaps people need to do load tests with other things to see how YOUR particular cell reacts? Is that possible? Given there are so many variables we don't know about the energy, it seems to me that there could be things around your shop like microwaves on or off? or any thing like that?
I know that some machinery effects it (i am told) perhaps its the environment around you
G'day Ash,
I am on several Yahoo forums where the Joe Cell is being research, many of these guys have had success in one form or another! The 9 volt charging has only recently been discussed, I stunble across it my self after days of charging with a 12 volt battery charger, the cell wouldn't retain more than 0.5 volts after 24 hours. I had some weak 9 volts lying around and thought what the heck. I left it on for an hours or so and wadda you know, the charge held. When I posted my findings, a very experienced researcher came out and back me up. He had found the same thing, so then others started looking into it and getting results. When the cell is really conditioned, it will hold a charge of 1.1 volts for around 3 days.
I have just pulled my cell down and am in the process of recharging. It's almost like going back to square 1. Anyway, the groups are as below.
joecellfreeenergydevice : Joe Cell Free Energy Device - Researching the Joe Cell Phenomena
JoesCell2 : Joe's Cell 2
There are plenty of other groups but these seem to be the most active with the leading researchers.
If you're not already a member and you are researching JC's, I'd recommend joining.
BTW I am a LONG way of having a workable cell. When I limped home with fuel cut, I had no power and 20K's was about top speed but it still was going in a manner of speaking.
Cheers
Jeff
JOe Cell research
#5 ·
ashtweth wrote:
Oz
Mate look for Bernies research on the JC in the joe cell yahoo groups, he has the easiest stage three procedure mate.
Ps, i have met Joe,
He wont tell you jack shyte. It very confusing and frustrating.
boost your ride Bro, JC is R and D
I have spoken to Bernie quite a bit over trhe last year or so, He's been very helpful as have other JC reasearchers. I have long since given up on Joe as a source of info, I look at his videos and tried some of his suggestions and to tell the you truth, to me it seems like smoke and mirrors. I have found S3 is not measured by bubbles but residual voltage which I have no trouble achieving. I have also found total electrical isolation from the vehicle works far better than grounding the cell to the vehicle.
At the moment I have for the first time in about 6 months, pulled the cell decanted the water - (which was still crystal clear) re passivated the cell and will hopefully be reinstalling it today into its engine bay housing but this time electricall isolated. All my experience so far shows this is the way to go so I am going to try.
The biggest problem I am facing is the changeover, it wants to but there just seems to be a bump in the process that it can't quite get past. Anyway, just one more area of my R & D. The plugs are still on the bench as is other stuff I am doing.
Thanks for the response Ash
Jeff
JOe Cell research
#4 ·
No I haven't tried this but the cell definitly has a measurable filed around it.
JOe Cell research
#1 ·
At Jetijs suggestion, I am starting a new thread on the subject of Joe Cells in the hope that others maybe be able to shed light on things.
For those who don't know what Joe Cell is..........
It's a Stainless Steel canaster with 3 or more inner concentric tubes. The innermost tube is the cathode and the outer canister is the anode. This device is NOT for hydroxy production but rather the generation of torsion fields.
As at this date, this cell has produced interesting but frustrating results which seem to plague all Joe Cell researchers. On 2 separate occasions I have had my motor idling for up to 2 hours with fuel cut but vapour return line still connected. I have also driven the car fo up to 15 kilomtres with the same setup. The problem is, I can't get stability with it! I can't figure out why it soemtimes works and other times not. So that's where I am at with this research. 
Comments and questions are welcome.
For those who don't know what Joe Cell is..........
It's a Stainless Steel canaster with 3 or more inner concentric tubes. The innermost tube is the cathode and the outer canister is the anode. This device is NOT for hydroxy production but rather the generation of torsion fields.
As at this date, this cell has produced interesting but frustrating results which seem to plague all Joe Cell researchers. On 2 separate occasions I have had my motor idling for up to 2 hours with fuel cut but vapour return line still connected. I have also driven the car fo up to 15 kilomtres with the same setup. The problem is, I can't get stability with it! I can't figure out why it soemtimes works and other times not.
So that's where I am at with this research. Comments and questions are welcome.
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Syncronicity!?
I work in the airconditioning installation industry and guess what I had sitting in my shed! A 4 m roll of copper tubing ID 1.3mm OD 2.58mm. Ok, not exactly the same size but worth a shot! It looks simple enough from the patents, any suggestions before I jump in?
Jeff
I work in the airconditioning installation industry and guess what I had sitting in my shed! A 4 m roll of copper tubing ID 1.3mm OD 2.58mm. Ok, not exactly the same size but worth a shot! It looks simple enough from the patents, any suggestions before I jump in?
Jeff