sla battery fumes?
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minoly
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Hi N8,
I hear you on that one, so much is stored in our brains. That's the real hidden energy IMHO.
Check this one out:
YouTube - Weed eater running on pure hydrogen made from Water without Electricity
I don't know about Aluminum/Potassium hydroxide into hydrogen, we could never get that part going, so who knows this engine could be a hoax as well. he could have the hose connected to the engines air intake and the engine get's choked off when it can't breath for all I know.
If real, this could be converted to a generator... or better yet might be a sterling type engine.
Patrick
I hear you on that one, so much is stored in our brains. That's the real hidden energy IMHO.
Check this one out:
YouTube - Weed eater running on pure hydrogen made from Water without Electricity
I don't know about Aluminum/Potassium hydroxide into hydrogen, we could never get that part going, so who knows this engine could be a hoax as well. he could have the hose connected to the engines air intake and the engine get's choked off when it can't breath for all I know.
If real, this could be converted to a generator... or better yet might be a sterling type engine.
Patrick
Hydrogen and Oxygen
Well,
I hope at the very least you all are being safe with your batteries.
knowing that they produce hydrogen and pure oxygen.
keep them in a well ventilated area
AWAY FROM SPARKS!
Lead Acid Battery Maintenance and Safety Protocol
Lead-acid batteries are physically large batteries that contain lead plates in a solution of acid to create electricity. They are a common power source for many applications; mostly cars, boats, standby power generators. Each year a state employee is injured during the operation and maintenance of these batteries. Nationally, 2300 people are injured each year using lead acid batteries. Acid burns to the face and eyes comprise about 50% of these injuries as these batteries can easily explode. The remaining injuries were mostly due to lifting or dropping batteries as they are quite heavy.
Lead-Acid battery Basics:
The electrolyte is a solution of sulfuric acid (35%) and water (65%). This solution can cause chemical burns to the skin and especially to the eyes.
During normal operation, water is lost from a non-sealed (or flooded) battery due to evaporation.
During charging, lead acid batteries produce hydrogen and oxygen gases (highly flammable/explosive) as electrolysis occurs.
Many lead acid explosions are believed to occur when electrolytes are below the plates in the battery and thus, allowing space for hydrogen/oxygen to accumulate. When the battery is engaged, it may create a spark that ignites the accumulated gases and causes the battery to explode.
Standard Precautions:
Always store or recharge batteries in a well ventilated area away from sparks or open flames
Damaged lead acid batteries shall be kept in properly labeled acid-resistant secondary containment structures.
Use only chargers that are designed for the battery being charged.
Always keep lead acid battery vent caps securely in place.
Do not store acid in hot locations or in direct sunlight.
Pour concentrated acid SLOWLY into water; do not add water into acid.
Use nonmetallic containers and funnels.
If acid gets into your eyes, flush immediately with water for 15 minutes, and then promptly seek medical attention.
If acid gets on your skin, rinse the affected area immediately with large amounts of water. Seek medical attention if the chemical burns appears to be a second degree or greater.
Never over charge a lead acid battery and only replenish fluid with distilled water.
Emergency wash stations should be located near lead-acid battery storage and charging areas.
Prevent open flames, sparks or electric arcs in charging areas.
Lead-acid storage and charging areas should be posted with "Flammable - No Smoking" signs.
Neutralize spilled or splashed sulfuric acid solution with a baking soda solution, and rinse the spill area with clean water.
What to do when servicing batteries:
Keep metal tools and jewelry away from the battery.
Inspect for defective cables, loose connections, corroded cable connectors or battery terminals, cracked cases or covers, loose hold-down clamps and deformed or loosed terminal posts.
Replace worn or unserviceable parts.
Check the state of charge of non-sealed and sealed batteries with an accurate digital voltmeter while the engine is not running, and lights and other electrically-powered equipment are turned off. Also check the electrolyte levels and specific gravity in each cell of non-sealed batteries.
When checking the electrolyte liquid levels of the batteries use a rated flashlight that is intrinsically safe. In the event one is not available, Use a plastic/non metallic flashlight, turn on the flash light prior to getting near the battery when checking cell levels and turn off the flash light when you are away from the batteries.
Follow the battery manufacturer's recommendations about when to recharge or replace batteries.
Tighten cable clamp nuts with the proper size wrench. Avoid subjecting battery terminals to excessive twisting forces.
Use a cable puller to remove a cable clamp from the battery terminal.
Remove corrosion on the terminal posts, hold-down tray and hold-down parts.
Use a tapered brush to clean battery terminals and the cable clamps.
Wash and clean the battery, battery terminals, and case or tray with water. The corrosive acid can be neutralized by brushing on some baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) solution. If the solution does not bubble, the acid is probably neutralized. Rinse the battery with water to remove the baking soda solution.
To prevent shocks, never touch or come in contact with both terminals at the same time. If baking soda solution is applied with a cloth, remember that these solutions can conduct electricity.
When battery cables are removed, ensure that they are clearly marked "positive" and "negative" so that they are reconnected with the correct polarity.
Use a battery carrier to lift a battery, or place hands at opposite corners. Remember, batteries can weight 30 to 60 pounds, so practice safe lifting and carrying procedures to prevent back injuries.
Use a self-leveling filler that automatically fills the battery to a predetermined level. Never fill battery cells about the level indicator.
Do not squeeze the syringe so hard that the water splashes acid from the cell opening.
Required safety equipment in the battery recharging area:
Plumbed tepid water safety shower and eyewash station.
Personal or Portable eyewash stations may be installed in the area immediate to the battery charging, if plumbed units can not be installed. However, plumbed tepid water wash stations must be installed nearby to facilitate the required flushing of the eyes and skin.
Non-vented safety goggles
Face shield (considered secondary safety protection)
Acid resistant gloves (neoprene is sufficient)
Apron (If there is a potential to spill acid)
Steel-toe boots or foot guards if the battery is lifted
Forklift Battery Information:
Some forklifts use nickel-iron (Ni-Fe) batteries. The personal protective equipment (PPE) requirements will be similar to lead-acid battery handling, though you should verify the chemical resistance of the gloves against the potassium hydroxide electrolyte solution and select appropriately.
Note that the electrolytes used in lead acid (sulfuric acid) and nickel iron (potassium hydroxide) batteries are incompatible. If your facility has both types in use, take appropriate precautions to avoid mixing the solutions.
To protect against the danger associated with the battery's weight, the batteries should only be removed and replaced from the forklifts using an appropriately equipped forklift or battery cart specifically designed for transporting batteries.
Batteries being removed should be securely placed and restrained in the cart or forklift to avoid dropping the battery.
Prior to starting the standby generator:
Check the engine starting batteries to determine if the batteries are sealed or unsealed lead acid.
If the batteries are unsealed lead acid, check the electrolyte level in the battery before starting the generator.
If the electrolyte is low and the plates are exposed, do not start the generator. Add distilled water to the electrolyte to specified level in battery.
i. Wear gloves, safety glasses/goggles, face shield and apron.
ii. Follow the instructions for adding water.
Wait at least an hour to allow time for the hydrogen gas generated in the battery to dissipate in the environment.
Well,
I hope at the very least you all are being safe with your batteries.
knowing that they produce hydrogen and pure oxygen.
keep them in a well ventilated area
AWAY FROM SPARKS!
Lead Acid Battery Maintenance and Safety Protocol
Lead-acid batteries are physically large batteries that contain lead plates in a solution of acid to create electricity. They are a common power source for many applications; mostly cars, boats, standby power generators. Each year a state employee is injured during the operation and maintenance of these batteries. Nationally, 2300 people are injured each year using lead acid batteries. Acid burns to the face and eyes comprise about 50% of these injuries as these batteries can easily explode. The remaining injuries were mostly due to lifting or dropping batteries as they are quite heavy.
Lead-Acid battery Basics:
The electrolyte is a solution of sulfuric acid (35%) and water (65%). This solution can cause chemical burns to the skin and especially to the eyes.
During normal operation, water is lost from a non-sealed (or flooded) battery due to evaporation.
During charging, lead acid batteries produce hydrogen and oxygen gases (highly flammable/explosive) as electrolysis occurs.
Many lead acid explosions are believed to occur when electrolytes are below the plates in the battery and thus, allowing space for hydrogen/oxygen to accumulate. When the battery is engaged, it may create a spark that ignites the accumulated gases and causes the battery to explode.
Standard Precautions:
Always store or recharge batteries in a well ventilated area away from sparks or open flames
Damaged lead acid batteries shall be kept in properly labeled acid-resistant secondary containment structures.
Use only chargers that are designed for the battery being charged.
Always keep lead acid battery vent caps securely in place.
Do not store acid in hot locations or in direct sunlight.
Pour concentrated acid SLOWLY into water; do not add water into acid.
Use nonmetallic containers and funnels.
If acid gets into your eyes, flush immediately with water for 15 minutes, and then promptly seek medical attention.
If acid gets on your skin, rinse the affected area immediately with large amounts of water. Seek medical attention if the chemical burns appears to be a second degree or greater.
Never over charge a lead acid battery and only replenish fluid with distilled water.
Emergency wash stations should be located near lead-acid battery storage and charging areas.
Prevent open flames, sparks or electric arcs in charging areas.
Lead-acid storage and charging areas should be posted with "Flammable - No Smoking" signs.
Neutralize spilled or splashed sulfuric acid solution with a baking soda solution, and rinse the spill area with clean water.
What to do when servicing batteries:
Keep metal tools and jewelry away from the battery.
Inspect for defective cables, loose connections, corroded cable connectors or battery terminals, cracked cases or covers, loose hold-down clamps and deformed or loosed terminal posts.
Replace worn or unserviceable parts.
Check the state of charge of non-sealed and sealed batteries with an accurate digital voltmeter while the engine is not running, and lights and other electrically-powered equipment are turned off. Also check the electrolyte levels and specific gravity in each cell of non-sealed batteries.
When checking the electrolyte liquid levels of the batteries use a rated flashlight that is intrinsically safe. In the event one is not available, Use a plastic/non metallic flashlight, turn on the flash light prior to getting near the battery when checking cell levels and turn off the flash light when you are away from the batteries.
Follow the battery manufacturer's recommendations about when to recharge or replace batteries.
Tighten cable clamp nuts with the proper size wrench. Avoid subjecting battery terminals to excessive twisting forces.
Use a cable puller to remove a cable clamp from the battery terminal.
Remove corrosion on the terminal posts, hold-down tray and hold-down parts.
Use a tapered brush to clean battery terminals and the cable clamps.
Wash and clean the battery, battery terminals, and case or tray with water. The corrosive acid can be neutralized by brushing on some baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) solution. If the solution does not bubble, the acid is probably neutralized. Rinse the battery with water to remove the baking soda solution.
To prevent shocks, never touch or come in contact with both terminals at the same time. If baking soda solution is applied with a cloth, remember that these solutions can conduct electricity.
When battery cables are removed, ensure that they are clearly marked "positive" and "negative" so that they are reconnected with the correct polarity.
Use a battery carrier to lift a battery, or place hands at opposite corners. Remember, batteries can weight 30 to 60 pounds, so practice safe lifting and carrying procedures to prevent back injuries.
Use a self-leveling filler that automatically fills the battery to a predetermined level. Never fill battery cells about the level indicator.
Do not squeeze the syringe so hard that the water splashes acid from the cell opening.
Required safety equipment in the battery recharging area:
Plumbed tepid water safety shower and eyewash station.
Personal or Portable eyewash stations may be installed in the area immediate to the battery charging, if plumbed units can not be installed. However, plumbed tepid water wash stations must be installed nearby to facilitate the required flushing of the eyes and skin.
Non-vented safety goggles
Face shield (considered secondary safety protection)
Acid resistant gloves (neoprene is sufficient)
Apron (If there is a potential to spill acid)
Steel-toe boots or foot guards if the battery is lifted
Forklift Battery Information:
Some forklifts use nickel-iron (Ni-Fe) batteries. The personal protective equipment (PPE) requirements will be similar to lead-acid battery handling, though you should verify the chemical resistance of the gloves against the potassium hydroxide electrolyte solution and select appropriately.
Note that the electrolytes used in lead acid (sulfuric acid) and nickel iron (potassium hydroxide) batteries are incompatible. If your facility has both types in use, take appropriate precautions to avoid mixing the solutions.
To protect against the danger associated with the battery's weight, the batteries should only be removed and replaced from the forklifts using an appropriately equipped forklift or battery cart specifically designed for transporting batteries.
Batteries being removed should be securely placed and restrained in the cart or forklift to avoid dropping the battery.
Prior to starting the standby generator:
Check the engine starting batteries to determine if the batteries are sealed or unsealed lead acid.
If the batteries are unsealed lead acid, check the electrolyte level in the battery before starting the generator.
If the electrolyte is low and the plates are exposed, do not start the generator. Add distilled water to the electrolyte to specified level in battery.
i. Wear gloves, safety glasses/goggles, face shield and apron.
ii. Follow the instructions for adding water.
Wait at least an hour to allow time for the hydrogen gas generated in the battery to dissipate in the environment.
I searched and could not find if this has been talked about. If it has please let me know and I can kill this thread
we just posted a video of our solid state SSG producing hydrogen
IN the battery itself:
YouTube - min2oly's Channel
This also works on the pulse motor type, our vid just happens to be the solid state. so, how can we close the loop on this one
is there a known amount of hydrogen that produces x amount of joules or something like that so I don't have to build a motor that runs on hydrogen to produce electricity to add it to the COP etc...
Patrick
we just posted a video of our solid state SSG producing hydrogen
IN the battery itself:
YouTube - min2oly's Channel
This also works on the pulse motor type, our vid just happens to be the solid state. so, how can we close the loop on this one
is there a known amount of hydrogen that produces x amount of joules or something like that so I don't have to build a motor that runs on hydrogen to produce electricity to add it to the COP etc...
Patrick
SSG Modification anomaly
#15 ·
could this be the same thing going on in the JouleRinger thread with the use of electrolytic caps the extra bi-filer winding and Teslas Impulse Tec all ringing the bell in tune with each other shuttling the energy around while we pick off bits here and there?
this is how words can get all discombobulated
I was comparing your add on the the "nodes" JB talks about starting at around the 7 minute mark, not the main power coil.
there is something here - keep up the good work. you got us all excited about trying it your way, will have to do it in the AM. I'm known to let the smoke out of things in the late hours
I was comparing your add on the the "nodes" JB talks about starting at around the 7 minute mark, not the main power coil.
there is something here - keep up the good work. you got us all excited about trying it your way, will have to do it in the AM. I'm known to let the smoke out of things in the late hours
Zooty wrote:
Hi Minoly, this is very different from the Tesla Impulse Technology that John showed in that video. He uses a bridge rectifier directly across the power coil and the extra inductor has an air core. What i wanted to do was take advantage of the inductive spike because it does not seem to loose strength as it travels through a conductor unlike normal hot current. I also noticed that depending on the load after the extra inductor, dictates how much current is generated in that inductor. The other thing to think about is, the extra inductor now also produces it's own inductive spike from the main inductive spike without any waste. When the main spike creates a dipole across the coil in series with the charge battery, current flows, creating a magnetic field in the extra coil. The spike is a very fast pulse with a nice sharp off so there is time for the field to collapse creating another spike and it seems to be free of charge because the charge battery sees all of it as if the inductor was never thereI am wondering now if i can add several coils like this to make extra spikes free. I still don't understand how the neon can light up when the extra charge battery is disconnected
Edit:
If you have an ammeter connected to the positive of your source, make sure you connect the negative of the charge battery to the source positive after the ammeter so that you can measure the drop in input current. The SSG circuit pushes current back to the primary. If you connect the charging battery directly to the source positive terminal, you are bypassing the ammeter.
now you said something that caught my eye. are saying your amp draw goes down when you add this inductor? or did I read wrong?
try putting that inductor on the negative leg of the primary battery, due to the core, and increased inductance the current is slowed - the radiant has a chance to build up, then you will see your neon will glow white, we actually blew a couple last year. this is something discussed over on BM2 yahoo.
Thanks for sharing
Very nice
have you checked out Energy From The Vacuum - Part 7 - Tesla's Impulse Technology?
it will explain what's going on.
have you checked out Energy From The Vacuum - Part 7 - Tesla's Impulse Technology?
it will explain what's going on.