If this was lenzless then it would not work. It is an inverter of lenz's law. It uses lenz's law to it's advantage. It is an old concept and should work nicely. I am also working on the concept and many others have as well. This allows an easy upgrade to any existing prime mover (DC or AC motor) and if the motor has two shafts that are usable you can tap the increased mechanical motion of the motor for even more. ie. More speed or double ended generator, one on each side.
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It's not Lenzless
If this was lenzless then it would not work. It is an inverter of lenz's law. It uses lenz's law to it's advantage. It is an old concept and should work nicely. I am also working on the concept and many others have as well. This allows an easy upgrade to any existing prime mover (DC or AC motor) and if the motor has two shafts that are usable you can tap the increased mechanical motion of the motor for even more. ie. More speed or double ended generator, one on each side.
If this was lenzless then it would not work. It is an inverter of lenz's law. It uses lenz's law to it's advantage. It is an old concept and should work nicely. I am also working on the concept and many others have as well. This allows an easy upgrade to any existing prime mover (DC or AC motor) and if the motor has two shafts that are usable you can tap the increased mechanical motion of the motor for even more. ie. More speed or double ended generator, one on each side.
Edison battery
#10 ·
Well...
I know they produce them but look at the requirements to buy them Aaron. Min quantity is 50 at least. If they are charging 100-1000 each cell then that can get very expensive. I highly doubt that it cost 1000 to make a cell. I mean how long have they been making them... Nearly 80 years? This is crazy.
I guess the only way to get them for a decent price is to make them for the motor I am developing. I am thinking on forwarding them to the nano scientists to see if they can improve the process cheaply.
Aaron wrote:
There are a LOT of manufacturers making Nickel Iron batteries. They
are often made big and virtually indestructible. The thing is, most are
made in China - so you CAN get them, but with shipping, might be spendy.
You just have to do your research to see who you're dealing with.
It shouldn't be too hard to find a dealer in the states. They DO exist and
have them large like Bedini's big cell phone tower batteries. I was thinking
of getting some for home power application.
I looked into these years ago - alibaba is a good source:
Nickel-iron Battery-Nickel-iron Battery Manufacturers, Suppliers and Exporters on alibaba.com
For electric cars and you name it.
I guess the only way to get them for a decent price is to make them for the motor I am developing. I am thinking on forwarding them to the nano scientists to see if they can improve the process cheaply.
Edison battery
#8 ·
No they have been discontinued in effect...
Those batteries that are on the market surely do not cost 3-12k???? Please this is what keeps them from being mass produced and used cheaply. Why because it would put the other companies out of business. This is insane.
Just think about electric cars for one? Although the charging on the batteries are less efficient, maybe that could be improved by using resonance, these batteries have been shelved and have had such a high price on them that no one could or would afford them.
Also just think about this for a second. For over 100 years, even with all our advancements, we have not improved the design. This was done on purpose. We were given a gift and we have done what we always have done in these cases. We bury it in obscurity and price it way out of attainability.
I am starting to think that we are destined to become nothing. Extinct because we are greedy. Our best ideas have been squashed into tiny obscure milestones and priced into oblivion. It sickens me that profit holds us back in every aspect.
Those batteries that are on the market surely do not cost 3-12k???? Please this is what keeps them from being mass produced and used cheaply. Why because it would put the other companies out of business. This is insane.
Just think about electric cars for one? Although the charging on the batteries are less efficient, maybe that could be improved by using resonance, these batteries have been shelved and have had such a high price on them that no one could or would afford them.
Also just think about this for a second. For over 100 years, even with all our advancements, we have not improved the design. This was done on purpose. We were given a gift and we have done what we always have done in these cases. We bury it in obscurity and price it way out of attainability.
I am starting to think that we are destined to become nothing. Extinct because we are greedy. Our best ideas have been squashed into tiny obscure milestones and priced into oblivion. It sickens me that profit holds us back in every aspect.
Edison battery
#4 ·
Savvypro wrote:
I'd be surprised if anyone was still making them for sale. Having just read the whole book I get the feeling that using nano particles of the various materials should allow for smaller size batteries with the same output . Or greater output for the same size battery.
Those batteries sure were put through their paces back then, I wonder if any of the modern batteries could handle the same tests today.
yeah....
I know it can get deep but don't think too much about it. At the level we are looking everything have only a very few basic laws to behave with. They are really geometric rules but in 3d. Then you have flow rules for the finer energetic levels of these conductors. it goes to infinity because if it didn't at one point it would all flow together and become unified. The mass of these conductors are really only shells or lattices constructed out of it's very own structure. Each replicating itself.
At some point the mass takes over and errors get formed from larger rules that get applied from massing at each set of levels you go up. With the set being harmonics. Meaning the division from one level that it takes to get to the next larger level is a harmonic whole.
Lets see if that helps?
pha3z wrote:
@Jbignes5 Thanks! Your last post is pretty abstract. I tried to get what I could from it. Your first post with the article is interesting. I will read the article later when I get more time! Thank you!
At some point the mass takes over and errors get formed from larger rules that get applied from massing at each set of levels you go up. With the set being harmonics. Meaning the division from one level that it takes to get to the next larger level is a harmonic whole.
Lets see if that helps?
No luck required.
Simply put when faced with the truth one can not deny that truth. Even if they did I am letting everyone know what is the truth as best and as far down as my mind lets me see. These truths are as accurately reported and experimented as one can do through all the ages that we have had thought to experiment on. Others might want to hide the truth but I think it is out of the bag now. There are limits to our vision but there is no limit to our potential to see the unseen.
If one follows the train of thought that on the biggest scales must be clues to what is going on in the smallest of scales. One can see the purest of actions in the case of energy. The action of motion from a static charge one would need a fulcrum to resolve that motion. That fulcrum is a vehicle for the charge to ride on and to have motion based on pure potential is manifested by a much smaller network that is in constant motion, meaning that there is a limitless supply of motion in nature. The vehicle must covey or give freely the potential of the static charge without conveying the charge itself with much higher influences of massed charges, crystals fit the bill. Ever heard of the pizzo effect?
If you get this one thing about this is that massive collections will organize into networks and those small networks will organize into much larger networks to your hearts content. In fact we are made up of a biliion quardrillion little networks organized into specific networks that allow flows between our internal systems. This natural organization follows or mirrors what is happening on the smallest scales. Just much simpler in organization of the underlying medium or energy networks on the smaller scale. On mass they become more complex and riddles with faults that create resistances to the flow or accelerations of that flow or movement. So movement is flow and flow is caused by the static made mobile. The static I believe stays static because movement creates more movement in the static through a separation or medium of the statics displaced by the conductors. On the finest resolution energy even has a network and below that another network. All this happened from a very big event. I believe the event is yet another resolution change to the largest of scales or larger then we could fathom from looking from our resolution.
Since Black holes exist I believe this original event was inside one of those black holes material or crystal. The extreme pressure and temperature in that black hole created the biggest known crystal one could imagine. Since we know that one can break a single row of that crystal we know at one time something struck the black holes material causing an inclusion. This inclusion made a separation in the crystal and static forces repelled the two parts apart creating the void of our universe in a vacuum. When all the broken pieces that made up that crystal moved enough away from the sources they formed networks that build pretty fast. These networks were so fine and organized that energy was completely still. It was the action of the impurities of the original crystal that formed matter around the nodes of these networks and matter condensed into existence. They were statically attracted to the source charges that were the nodes or flexible parts of the network. Imagine if you will the modeling we currently use to show compounds or chemical composition of matter. Matter forms around the charges locking in the energy matrix that it condensed around. Some of these networks are very compressed because the networks were of a finer detail. They are finer because the source charges were bunched up more at the node points.
Now to the conductors mass. Well to put it simple it has to be out of balance within it's reference to itself. Meaning one end in very very small and the other end is massive in comparison. Take for instance a Pyramid. That is such a shape that I think mirrors the natural conductors shape. If you look at certain microscopic views of salt crystals you can see that they are built from the top down via surface area growing larger as it builds up. The funny thing about crystals at that resolution is that they are built in layers. These layers I believe are the ability to attract or sense potential differences by a finer crystalline structure that has been attracted to the sloping face into the charge that is help between the layers of crystals as you go up twords the tip. This is actually why we see capacitance but this is a static capacitance and is balanced or maintained by the crystals layers.
Sorry but I have to take a break now. See if that makes sense to you all?
Simply put when faced with the truth one can not deny that truth. Even if they did I am letting everyone know what is the truth as best and as far down as my mind lets me see. These truths are as accurately reported and experimented as one can do through all the ages that we have had thought to experiment on. Others might want to hide the truth but I think it is out of the bag now. There are limits to our vision but there is no limit to our potential to see the unseen.
If one follows the train of thought that on the biggest scales must be clues to what is going on in the smallest of scales. One can see the purest of actions in the case of energy. The action of motion from a static charge one would need a fulcrum to resolve that motion. That fulcrum is a vehicle for the charge to ride on and to have motion based on pure potential is manifested by a much smaller network that is in constant motion, meaning that there is a limitless supply of motion in nature. The vehicle must covey or give freely the potential of the static charge without conveying the charge itself with much higher influences of massed charges, crystals fit the bill. Ever heard of the pizzo effect?
If you get this one thing about this is that massive collections will organize into networks and those small networks will organize into much larger networks to your hearts content. In fact we are made up of a biliion quardrillion little networks organized into specific networks that allow flows between our internal systems. This natural organization follows or mirrors what is happening on the smallest scales. Just much simpler in organization of the underlying medium or energy networks on the smaller scale. On mass they become more complex and riddles with faults that create resistances to the flow or accelerations of that flow or movement. So movement is flow and flow is caused by the static made mobile. The static I believe stays static because movement creates more movement in the static through a separation or medium of the statics displaced by the conductors. On the finest resolution energy even has a network and below that another network. All this happened from a very big event. I believe the event is yet another resolution change to the largest of scales or larger then we could fathom from looking from our resolution.
Since Black holes exist I believe this original event was inside one of those black holes material or crystal. The extreme pressure and temperature in that black hole created the biggest known crystal one could imagine. Since we know that one can break a single row of that crystal we know at one time something struck the black holes material causing an inclusion. This inclusion made a separation in the crystal and static forces repelled the two parts apart creating the void of our universe in a vacuum. When all the broken pieces that made up that crystal moved enough away from the sources they formed networks that build pretty fast. These networks were so fine and organized that energy was completely still. It was the action of the impurities of the original crystal that formed matter around the nodes of these networks and matter condensed into existence. They were statically attracted to the source charges that were the nodes or flexible parts of the network. Imagine if you will the modeling we currently use to show compounds or chemical composition of matter. Matter forms around the charges locking in the energy matrix that it condensed around. Some of these networks are very compressed because the networks were of a finer detail. They are finer because the source charges were bunched up more at the node points.
Now to the conductors mass. Well to put it simple it has to be out of balance within it's reference to itself. Meaning one end in very very small and the other end is massive in comparison. Take for instance a Pyramid. That is such a shape that I think mirrors the natural conductors shape. If you look at certain microscopic views of salt crystals you can see that they are built from the top down via surface area growing larger as it builds up. The funny thing about crystals at that resolution is that they are built in layers. These layers I believe are the ability to attract or sense potential differences by a finer crystalline structure that has been attracted to the sloping face into the charge that is help between the layers of crystals as you go up twords the tip. This is actually why we see capacitance but this is a static capacitance and is balanced or maintained by the crystals layers.
Sorry but I have to take a break now. See if that makes sense to you all?
Stealth wrote:
I don't know whether you would want to, or what effect it will have on your reproductive organs, but you can obtain radioactive material if you wish. It is not very high powered,but if you would use more of it, and condense it, it should have plenty of power to do what experimentation you need. You could build your own nuclear battery is you so wish. The radioactive substance I am referring to is Americium. Every smoke detector built has a small quantity of this substance inside it.It is what sets the detector off in case of smoke or fire. I have not used it for obvious reasons. Good Luck. Stealth
We don't want to simulate the mechanism that creates the emissions but actually to use the mechanism to create a cycle that balances out those attractions of charges so they have slower response to the attraction and are less dangerous for everything in between the potential and the source. Kind of like pulsing a motor has less current draw or reacts less to the resistances between that motor and source.
pha3z wrote:
Does anyone have any insight into Tesla's car or Moray's box? I'm guessing they were working on similar principles. I know the construction of the parts was different, though. Supposedly Moray's box contained chambers with some kind of granular material that is speculated might have been slightly radioactive in nature (though I'm not convinced of this). All i know is that they say the chambers contained what he called "valves" and that they behaved like some kind of semi-conductor. Regarding Tesla's car, there is also an account floating around about a relative or friend that got a chance to ride with Tesla in the car once. The account states that Tesla had brought a box with some kind of tubes with him and plugged the box into the dashboard of the car. The tubes were believed to be the primary source of power. He had been working on the box in his hotel room before bringing it to the car. The car was silent in operation.
I am seriously new at electricity and electronics, but from everything I've learned, an LC circuit resonates based on the characteristics of the capacitor. If you look at Tesla's patent on Apparatus for the Utilization of Radiant Energy, he charges a capacitor before discharging it to do whatever he wants with it. Now since every circuit has a certain natural resonance, I wondered if the capacitor is actually gaining the bulk of its charge based on cosmic rays or em waves or scalar waves which interact with the resonant frequency of the circuit. I think I'm wrong on this but I really dont know what causes Tesla's circuit to be so weak so I'm posing this thought for feedback.
The reason I bring up that issue is this: isn't there a tremendous amount of total energy in the form of EM and cosmic rays everywhere? Isn't the problem of harvesting it that any method we normally use is only picking up a very narrow band of that energy? So if we could devise a way to pick up a wide band or all of it, we'd have more energy than we can fathom.
Consider that Tesla's car may have had an antenna on it (possibly receiving cosmic energy?). And consider that Moray's device is reported to have put out 50,000 WATTS with no input!! 50,000 watts is crazy! That sounds like the type of number one might predict if he had indeed found a way to harness nearly all of the cosmic or em waves passing that region of space.
Also, here's another question to put a different perspective on things: Can any light be gleaned by studying how earth batteries work? Based on strange accounts of Nathan Stubblefields work and his patents, he apparently figured out how to use large amounts of energy in some ways that would have appeared almost impossible to believe because the mechanisms were so peculiar. Since earth batteries are brewing natural currents straight from a dielectric, is there something going on here that can help understand what's happening when a circuit picks up em or scalar energy?
If one reads about what happens in the event you would see that the field gets more intense as it is flowing from the source to the much smaller surface area in. In effect being able to scoop up more charges as it enters the smaller in. This energy is static in nature so there needs to be another inlet (other small inlet) that one could pull from the stream of charges that are cycled into the device as it runs on demand. Like a y connection from the source and each connecting to the smaller antennas. With one having the load in between. Of course the load will have to be designed for high voltage or modified to have that capability With a better voltage breakdown properties. The last requirement is that the load will be running full throttle and needs to have enough cooling built in or added on.
In Tesla's case he added fan blades to the not used end on the motor he used in the pierce arrow and he might have added a pulser circuit after the load to regulate the charges through the load. Hence all the tubes on the box.
If you do one thing you need to read all of that article I referenced to you. Once you start to see that he figured out how to scoop charges through a cycle or stream and not deplete the area of charges you will start to understand his methods after wardencliff or went back to after wardencliff.
It would be interesting to see if these thin sheets would cut through the air like wings on a plane. You could have a large antenna in between two smaller outside wingtip antennas. Hmmm....
You also need to pay attention to shielding and since he talks about static shielding in the paper I suggest it was used heavily around and after the source to control the flow and direct it the way he wanted. Tesla did in fact design coax as well or a static version. In the article it talks about the shielding extending into the oil and not coming to close to the wires connections.
The Builders Thread
#4 ·
I have to agree as well...
I agree with Aaron on that point. We do in fact have a large group of builders. I am one of them. Although I don't show a lot of my work online doesn't mean I don't build. In fact for my up and comming theories I am gonna make a short series of video's to show what it is and how I think it works with working real examples.
But that takes a lot of time and I am really just finishing up on my thesis of my theory. Now the fun part comes and thats desiging something that shows proof positive what I was trying to explain with my Thesis.
I am looking forward to submitting it to you guys as my peers. I would like all comments as well once it is done.
But I digress. When i get some of my new work going I'll be video logging my experiences for the world to see.
I agree with Aaron on that point. We do in fact have a large group of builders. I am one of them. Although I don't show a lot of my work online doesn't mean I don't build. In fact for my up and comming theories I am gonna make a short series of video's to show what it is and how I think it works with working real examples.
But that takes a lot of time and I am really just finishing up on my thesis of my theory. Now the fun part comes and thats desiging something that shows proof positive what I was trying to explain with my Thesis.
I am looking forward to submitting it to you guys as my peers. I would like all comments as well once it is done.
But I digress. When i get some of my new work going I'll be video logging my experiences for the world to see.
in many states.
Too many states don't have strict values to be any good even with anti smog laws. They are usually easy to bypass and even easier to avoid.
A lot of states also have industrial anti-smog tarrifs if they vent thier stacks untreated to the air also. Maybe we should just start charging people for running thier cars and polluting our air. Maybe then they would get the point that we need to start doing something to clean our evironment up. Cars are the major reason for pollution today besides industrial pollution. Then all we need to do is put that money to good use doing R&D that could benefit our society and not the pockets of corporations.
I think this congressional law is a good thing to encourage people to start thinking greener. It sets a presidence and allows for the people in general to learn about thier environment and how polluting it also affects thier neibors as well.
Too many states don't have strict values to be any good even with anti smog laws. They are usually easy to bypass and even easier to avoid.
A lot of states also have industrial anti-smog tarrifs if they vent thier stacks untreated to the air also. Maybe we should just start charging people for running thier cars and polluting our air. Maybe then they would get the point that we need to start doing something to clean our evironment up. Cars are the major reason for pollution today besides industrial pollution. Then all we need to do is put that money to good use doing R&D that could benefit our society and not the pockets of corporations.
I think this congressional law is a good thing to encourage people to start thinking greener. It sets a presidence and allows for the people in general to learn about thier environment and how polluting it also affects thier neibors as well.
It's funny...
The response to this is rather funny. Hmm let me see.. Manufacturers have been making cars for how long and they can't seem to get this right. Even when there is sufficient technology to make higher mpg cars they don't. Why because they bought into the oil business along time ago knowing at some point infinate amount of cash was to be made, who's cash?, YOUR cash would be there to stuff thier pockets. EVEN though the car companies have the technology to make better carbs but they don't. Not only did the honda civic blow that concept away in the 90's even this forum has come up with ways that are borrowed from inventors that were trashed in the garbage because they were too good.
It is about time our "Government" do something about the fleecing of america and the world! It's a start to get people thinking higher mpg. The sad fact is we are running out of time both in pollution and resources. Some people know this and they are trying to enact rewards to get people to do the right thing because most don't want to without something in it for them. Maybe they should just put a tarrif on each car that puts out certain levels of smog and crap that the rest of this country refuses to do. I myself actuall went out and got myself a scooter to get around town up to 20 miles. Eventually I hope to design and produce a motor that does Zero emmisions and actually generates power when not used.
Look at Meyers... Take his gas processor pop it on the carb and turn the drip way way down and you still get the bang. Even on the lowest setting the carb should put out 200 mpg. He said it works with any gas! Not just hho. What did we do to that poor man?(Erased him). So you who like to donate all your hard earned cash to the big oil companies won't have to donate much, until the HHO version comes along. Only after we smarten up and realize that we are being manipulated and have been for decades will we have the power to make a change.
People want to do what they will. No matter if it is good for thier neibor or not they do it. We must change that mentality or we will go no where fast.
This in my opinion is a good thing what they did. It will encourage people to both buy new and extend our deadline even if it is for a couple of years. Complaining about any good step to correct a bad set of steps is futile.
The response to this is rather funny. Hmm let me see.. Manufacturers have been making cars for how long and they can't seem to get this right. Even when there is sufficient technology to make higher mpg cars they don't. Why because they bought into the oil business along time ago knowing at some point infinate amount of cash was to be made, who's cash?, YOUR cash would be there to stuff thier pockets. EVEN though the car companies have the technology to make better carbs but they don't. Not only did the honda civic blow that concept away in the 90's even this forum has come up with ways that are borrowed from inventors that were trashed in the garbage because they were too good.
It is about time our "Government" do something about the fleecing of america and the world! It's a start to get people thinking higher mpg. The sad fact is we are running out of time both in pollution and resources. Some people know this and they are trying to enact rewards to get people to do the right thing because most don't want to without something in it for them. Maybe they should just put a tarrif on each car that puts out certain levels of smog and crap that the rest of this country refuses to do. I myself actuall went out and got myself a scooter to get around town up to 20 miles. Eventually I hope to design and produce a motor that does Zero emmisions and actually generates power when not used.
Look at Meyers... Take his gas processor pop it on the carb and turn the drip way way down and you still get the bang. Even on the lowest setting the carb should put out 200 mpg. He said it works with any gas! Not just hho. What did we do to that poor man?(Erased him). So you who like to donate all your hard earned cash to the big oil companies won't have to donate much, until the HHO version comes along. Only after we smarten up and realize that we are being manipulated and have been for decades will we have the power to make a change.
People want to do what they will. No matter if it is good for thier neibor or not they do it. We must change that mentality or we will go no where fast.
This in my opinion is a good thing what they did. It will encourage people to both buy new and extend our deadline even if it is for a couple of years. Complaining about any good step to correct a bad set of steps is futile.