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Here is proof that you can get heat from compressing air, it gets hot enough to start a fire.

Gray Matter: How to Start a Fire With Only Compressed Air | Popular Science

@Peter Lindemann

All the videos i see on YouTube about Nitinol engines involve water that is close to boiling point for it to work. Heatmobile - YouTube

Would the lindeman perpetuum get hot enough?

Also what would be your guess on how Bessler wheel worked?

First off Peter Lindemann I must say I love your videos, I really like electric motor secrets and how it was presented. But the best thing I think you do is how you make your videos a download and not a actual DVD. I find downloads a lot more convenient and the best part is that I don't have to wait for DVD to come in the mail. Also at $17 it is well worth it too! I will for sure buy this.

If anyone has trouble playing the video I recommend downloading VLC player, it can play almost any format video and its free too.

I don't know for a fact if his motor is really overunity but I have built some motors that use magnets to increase the speed of the rotor and drop amps, thus proving that magnets can help to do work.

Here will be a video of it YouTube - Magnets cause motors to run more efficient

The magnets on the rotor are all facing north and there's about 6 of them. The magnets are neo's. The T shape of the stator magnet's also helps with the effect. Place the magnets on the other side would cause the motor to slow down and increase amps instead of placing it on the right side where it would speed up and decrease amps.

I don't understand why everyone is so hard pressed to call water a electret. The definition of a electret is " a dielectric material that has a quasi-permanent electric charge or dipole polarization." Water is a dielectric material proven here YouTube - Water as a Dielectric

Water has a permanent charge on it like for example it replied by a magnet shown here YouTube - "Anti" Magnetic water and Levitating Graphite by Diamagnetism

and that permanent charge can be collected from it falling between conductive plates much like copper passing a magnet in a generator shown here. YouTube - MIT's Walter Lewin Makes a Battery out of Cans and Water (Schauberger's Eco-Tech)


It all points to water be a electret. A low voltage electret but still a electret.

Graphite cells

I've replaced the aluminum plates with graphite you get from pencils and find I get about the same voltage reading. Graphite is less likely to corrode in the water than aluminum, in fact people who make the galvanic water batteries use graphite and some other metal and the other metal will corrode long before the graphite will. It really is amazing that I'm able to use similar metals such as graphite and get any voltage period, this goes to show that its not a galvanic reaction. You simple can't get a galvanic reaction from similar metals. I also used distilled water and two of the same size graphite pieces. Heres the video YouTube - Graphite only distilled water battery



This is simply amazing because its been known that this should not happen. If both metals are the same then there's nothing to give up like in a galvanic cell, so where does the electricity come from? The only explanation I could give is that theres electricity in the water and its due to it being a type of electret.

Electret (formed of elektr- from "electricity" and -et from "magnet") is a dielectric material that has a quasi-permanent electric charge or dipole polarization.

Water is a dielectric material.
YouTube - Water as a Dielectric

An electret generates internal and external electric fields, and is the electrostatic equivalent of a permanent magnet. This videos shows the external electrical field that water gives off YouTube - MIT's Walter Lewin Makes a Battery out of Cans and Water (Schauberger's Eco-Tech)
and for the internal electric is what i'm measuring in my cells.

How you would make a normal electret would to take a wax or some type of dielectric material and heat it up to almost boiling state and supply high voltage through it and continue the high voltage until the dielectric material has fully cooled down thus giving it a permanent charge.

How the water becomes a electret is much the same. When water is heated it evaporates and goes into the air. In the air exist high voltage, think of lighting and thunder, and is given a nice bath of high voltage. The water condenses thus cooling it and it falls back to earth. Its been doing this process for billions of years now. Reason why the voltage is not high like a normal electret has to do with the water being water, it likes to spread out and so does the voltage; the voltage becomes diluted to a certain point.

Not quite the same, its true that water will dissolves something over a period of time even if it takes billions of years to do so but this not the same as a galvanic corrosion. Galvanic reaction only occurs with to dissimilar metals and not metals that are the same. Here are some quotes from Galvanic corrosion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia confirming this.

"Galvanic corrosion is an electrochemical process in which one metal corrodes preferentially to another when both metals are in electrical contact and immersed in an electrolyte. The same galvanic reaction is exploited in primary batteries to generate a voltage."


"Dissimilar metals and alloys have different electrode potentials and when two or more come into contact in an electrolyte a galvanic couple is set up."

---- They also point out to stop galvanic reaction you can use the same metals.
"It is also possible to choose metals that have similar potentials. The more closely matched the individual potentials, the lesser the potential difference and hence the lesser the galvanic current. Using the same metal for all construction is the most precise way of matching potentials." there's no better way to match potentials then to use the same metal.

I don't get why you posted this? Lasersaber is making air batteries that use a galvanic reaction to give him voltage, while i have eliminated the galvanic reaction and my electricity is coming from the water.

When it comes to using tap water instead of distilled water i find that minerals and ions in the water really give it the best performance over distilled water. My biggest problem with using tap water was that it evaporated and when it did the minerals would get left behind on the aluminum plates. I find that the minerals would start to eat the aluminum, this was never a problem when the minerals where in the water it just when the water evaporates the minerals become a problem. Using distilled water solved the problem of the minerals but even distilled water has it problems too, low ion count gives poor power compared to the tap water cells. Its the minerals that really make these batteries sing.

So my biggest problem has been to do with evaporation, and i think i may have solved it. Simply covering the cup keeps the water in and the plates lasting longer. I also think if i fully fill up the cup so that no air is there and cover it up so that no water can get out should keep the plates perfect. It is true though that anything in water will corrode eventually but prolonging that for many years is my key and thats why i use aluminum for it anti-rust properties. Also i could start using colored cups to keep light and heat out so to keep in the water. I believe that i can make a battery that will run on purely water due to it's electret effect it shows.

I have come to the conclusion that there is electricity in water. The way that water has electricity is by the means of it being a electret. It becomes a electret when it evaporates into the atmosphere and is charged up by thunder and lighting and when it concedes it gets a permanent charge.

In a perfect world water would be neutral with a ph of 7, but we don't live in that world so water has electricity in it. The electricity is small but very powerful when fully understood. One of the best demonstrations of this is from Lord Kelvins water drop generator shown here YouTube - MIT's Walter Lewin Makes a Battery out of Cans and Water (Schauberger's Eco-Tech)
This video shows that water must have a electrical field around it just like a electret would in order to even get sparks.

If you want more proof heres a experiment you can do at home with supplies you probably have. Get a plastic cup and fill it with water, place two piece of aluminum foil in the water not touching each other(its best to have one piece of aluminum folded many times). You should see a voltage around 100mV when a meter is connected to both plates. Now leave the two aluminum foil plates shorted out with wire for a few days and you'll notice after you remove the wire that the cell will charge itself back to life. I find that the more pure the water the better, tap water has minerals that might eat away at the aluminum thus not give the best results but distilled water will help keep the cell alive much longer; so I recommend distilled water for long term testing and tap water for proof of concept.. Video on how to make one is here YouTube - How to make a Water Captret Battery.MP4

To help you better understand these cells think of them as water batteries but instead of using dissimilar metals to make electricity from the galvanic reaction I use similar metals to purely tap the electricity form the water. Since I'm using similar metals the cells should last for a long time because there is nothing to corrode them. Also since this process of evaporating the water to make the electrets has been going on for billions of years I should have a quite a big reservoir of free energy from water.

Since humans, plants, and animals are mostly made of water and we have our own electricity. Our own electricity is very close to the electricity you'll see when measuring the voltage on one cell from above experiment. Since water is needed by everything in nature that would make water the very wheel work of nature, thus tapping the electricity in water could have you tapping he very wheel work of nature.

The stuff we drink could have been the free energy all this time and we never considered it. Maybe thats why we need water, it recharges us so that we have electricity for our brain and muscles.

It is better to die with your idea's out their in the public domain then to die with you idea.

they do work, they just rust. a metal that doesn't rust will work better.

Ran it all night. The battery went from 8.41 to 8.38, not bad becuase it gave off a good amount of light.

Now for the bad, the magnets won't work, you need stainless steel or gold magnets. I can't tell you how much HHO was produced but it can't be much, but it was constant small bubbles when i went to sleep.

I've got to find the resistance of the water so that i can make some resistor like it to run a LED off a 9 volt. It could run for a long time.

I've got something, still in the early testing phase, a unique thing. Its very simple idea, a battery and two electrodes make HHO. But thats been done before so i spiced it up a bit.

I got a 9 volt battery with 8.41 volts on it and its running a LED, and producing what i assume is HHO at the same time. The setup is simple, the positive of the battery goes to a stack of round neo magnets and about 1 inch from that you got the positive of a LED in the water and the negative of the LED goes back to the battery. Small bubbles form on the positive of the LED and the LED lights up too. What is interesting is that battery has been at 8.41 volts for about a hour.

The reason for this idea started out with me thinking, could you make a HHO generator with two different metals? just like how a water battery works i thought the same principle could be applied and give great power to the HHO generators out their. so testing out metal i used the leads of a LED and to my amazement the LED lit up. Not really amazing when you consider the water acts like a resistor and thats why the led continues to light. But even with my control experiment i used a 1k ohm resistor with another 9 volt to see how long it would hold the charge, the resistor one drop in voltage while the water one didn't. I thought the HHO was a added bonus too.

It could be nothing but i figure i should let others know about it because you never know, it could spark a great idea from somebody.

I used just regular tap water.