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All I see is an attempt to make a new energy retailer to keep the worlds population enslaved by these new energy sellers for the next 100 years or more. Mr. & Mrs. Planned parenthood agenda suporters can put their ideas back in their pockets as the world is to be free of these energy enslavers in the next 10 years or so if I have anything to say about it!


h2opower.

Hydrogen House

#7 ·

Hi Rick,

Here are some video's of interest that you might not have seen before:
YouTube - Stan Meyers Estate Water Fuel Cell #1
YouTube - Stan Meyers Estate Water Fuel Cell #2
YouTube - Stan Meyers Estate Water Fuel Cell #3

One of these I have never seen before, the plate cell one, and even I learned something new from these video's. Enjoy!

Just think if you add in Meyer's work to the mix you cut out all of the other components in the set shown of the working system, it would go from water purification, to WC/GP/WFI to HICE or Fuel Cell, to inverter, to load. Oh and controlling electronics will also be needed but ones to control Meyer's systems. Now with the Fuel Cells your going to have to replace them every two and a half years but it will be oh so quite, something us old guys love So the cost of such a system goes way down with Meyer's work added in. By the way where can I find those fuel cells and how much do they cost? Plus I would need their way of separating the hydrogen from the oxygen too. I don't know the life of an HICE being run 24/7 but that is noisy and has moving parts, but it will give people other options if the cost is too high for the hydrogen fuel cell. I found this on HICE: http://www.utexas.edu/research/cem/i...wis%20HICE.pdf


h2opower.
Boguslaw, that about sums it up in a nut shell, as they try to hold on to their monopoly on the energy the world uses to maintain the population bubbles that have risen out of this oil & coal industry, they are pulling out all the stops now. They have even given the US a time line as to when they will crash the dollar, in about 22 months from now, and if they do that the population will not be able to afford any switch overs away from oil & coal.


h2opower.
Thanks for the article,

Now with my studies on water, if any of you have been following, I have come to the end of the line I think in explaining all life on the planet and what helps power it, you probably guess it already, Water!

It is the self-ionization of water that makes life possible, but what causes the water to self-ionize? Now in looking at Meyer's technology from all sides I think I got it, it's the earths magnetic field. I only need to duplicate the experiments of those that ran the water self-ionization experiments in different locations on the planet and check the time it takes for the water to self ionize. If my predictions are correct at the poles it will take ten times as less time for the water to self ionize so, this is saying the time will go from 8-10 hours to 40min to 1 hour if the same experiment is conducted at the poles a place where the magnetic field is the greatest. That is where the funding would come in handy so I can run such proof type experiments from our government.

But I also like to use Ockham's razor which helps me to leap-frog in my understanding of the true nature of water. If the above is true then what Meyer did is no mystery. The magnetic field lines in the capacitors he created are doing the work seen in his video's to make use of water as a source of fuel. It is the moving media that is the part of the reaction that makes all of this possible, even you and me walking and talking. In us the moving medium is our blood stream, in Meyer's work the moving medium is water, water mist(almost like a fog), and air. With this he was able to make use of water as a source of fuel, and it all has to do with the self-ionization of water.

Now to leap-frog forewords (Ockham's razor), in space travel then we have to recreate the poles or life as we know it will have a very hard time existing or start to cease many biological functions. We need the magnetic poles to exist or for life to take place for the spark of life is the self-ionization of water, and that is tided to the planets magnetic field. These are very bold statements I know, but this is where the science has lead me in looking into Meyer's work, as I keep telling others I think I have it all figured out now, and energy independence is now just around the corner.


h2opower.
If you want to read this we go over a lot about coherent light in use with the Gas Processor here: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...processor.html. Once you study the Gas Processor and how it works you will see that they are all similar in how they work. This is just to answer your question as to what wavelengths are needed and how to determine the right wavelength for your needs. The light energy needs to be absorbed by what ever you are trying ionize, for that is resonance with concern to how coherent light interacts with matter.


h2opower.

Exploding water

#4 ·

If you read this thread you will learn just how Stanley Meyer made use of water as a source of fuel: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...explained.html
and I made of summary of it here: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post65042

This is the science behind the invention and hopefully with that knowledge all of you reading this will be able to become energy independent. Enjoy


h2opower.

Inquorate wrote:

The ppl in the water sparkplug thread are doing a wonderful job of trying to make car engines run on different percentages of water mixed with the fuel.

But after watching these videos

YouTube - Thermite and Ice

YouTube - Panacea-BOCAF Water Spark Plug (3 of 3)

YouTube - Burn water burn

I thought of the possible combination of these two effects

YouTube - Mist maker

YouTube - capacitor discharge

And then of trying to make an engine. Because making a petroleum fuel motor run on water is probably harder than trying to make a 2 stroke engine run on diesel.

Then we could have the motor running some kind of generator.

I don't have the funds at the moment, it's more of a long term goal. I'm thinking of experimenting eventually with a hobby aircraft motor. First would be the mister and plasma discharge from a cap bank.

But I thought for now, why not start a discussion about simply exploding water.

Love and light

Exxon on Global Warming

#3 ·

You have to think bigger and see the larger picture. It is the World Banks, IMF, and that new one they created that own all of the oil companies, coal, and most of the other energy sellers. Nothing happens without their approval for it is like they say, only 2% of the worlds population is horrding all the wealth. They have a good game going and don't want to see an end to it. You think that there are two sides when in fact there is only one side, for they have been both sides of every war since WWI and this global warming war is no different they play both sides in this too.

Think about it, where does Al Gore get his money from? Coal right? Look at what solutions have been offered up, more taxation ie carbon tax, forming a one world police force for green peace but peace is not what they will bring. They talk big about wind power, solar power, and hydro power even thermo power, but you never here them say lowering you energy bill. They talk E85 and hydrogen but make sure there is a meter on it so buisness goes on as usual and your money keeps flowing to wall street. Asking questions like these makes the whole pitcure comes into view. Just think all the new wave genarators and your energy bill will remain the same totally unchanged or even might go up since it is clean energy you should pay more for it, right? Wrong! That in essense is charging you for air, water, heat, gravity, and sunlight along with some fusion.
All of them are free to them except fusion, and yet you are made to feel you have to pay more for it than fosile fuels, note the key word is "Feel." Basically they want to charge you for riding around in this statilite called earth every second of every day. While they live the good life, never eating from the same wares twice, never wearing the same socks twice, playing God as a daily routine.

Some of us kill one person and get life in jail, they kill millions and get the nobel prize or some form of congradulations for a job well done. The biggest crooks are runing the show, people that should be serving long jail times are being put in positions of power. They control the media thus most of the flow of information. The internet is one that got away from them, but plans are in place to control that by 2012 or sooner. They hate people like me for I ask and answer too many questions. I see right through them and none of their comershalls or propaganda work on me. I can see the big picture, can any of you?

Look at the wars we are in today and ask; Why are we there? Who started all of this? What are the end goals? What where our first moves or missions when we first started the fighting? Why did we dump all of our depleted durainium in their back yard? Why where civilains killed in mass? Why where we torchering people and then destorying the taps documenting the events? When did it become legal to make up the rules as we go along?

There are so many unanswered questions, I am sure some of you outhere reading this can come up with even more questions.

Know your foe!


h2opower.
Thanks for the link to the video as it only lets me know that I really need to finish up my work on Stanley Meyer water for fuel technology. I am almost finished but these last steps seem to be the hardest. I have a lot of work to do, but the needs of my family are great right now and take up a lot of my time. But I did the best thing I could think of to do and that was to give away the workings of Stanley Meyer's for free here: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...explained.html

For in my mind that is the only way any of us are going to see this wonderful technology make it to our everyday lives. Plus since this is a global problem the internet is the proper vehical of choice in my book.

Enjoy everyone,

h2opower.

future pather wrote:

All of the power that any car company has lies in the fact that people want their products. There is a value in what they provide, otherwise this would be a non-issue. People don't need to be tricked into wanting cars and buying cars.
Unfortunitly it doesn't work that way and you can thank Edward Bernays for that one. The way it has been working for them for about 50 years or more is they make a product market it as if you are going to die if you don't get it and it has been working for them on a grand scale.

Right now I am at the verge of making a car run on water so I really don't think much of the push to get a new car for as Boy Boyce found out the computerization will defeat any attemps to get better fuel economy. And I have found out that making the switch from gasoline to water as a fuel source all the computerization stuff really gets in the way of progress to the point they can not be switched over to using water as its' fuel source.

So my advice for right now is to just wait for me to get the bugs of the system worked out for I will do the right thing in the end and pass on energy independence to humanity. You can read all about how to use water as a fuel source here: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...explained.html Not sure how much of it everyone will understand but all the science is there and so much more.

Best Wishes,

h2opower.
Interesting, but remember it is the oxygen we are most interested in, not the hydrogen. The oxygen atom is stripped of electrons and well, I already have shown the math of the process. Stanley Meyer says right in his patent that the oxygen atoms have to be stripped of 4 or more electrons and guess what I found out when I did the number crunching? At the 4th energy level oxygen overcomes the energy level of gasoline, and it takes less electron volts ( eV ) to do so.

I wish they had one that was made for oxygen. But I did try some frequencies of hydrogen 486nm, 434nm, 398nm and it works just fine at stripping the electron from the hydrogen atom. So then to will the frequencies of oxygen at stripping it of electrons. So it gives me hope I am doing things in the right direction thus far.

When playing with it I notice that one you stip the first level it seems to take less energy to strip it to the next level. That is where I belive the air capacitor or, corona discharge to me more accurate, has did it's job of stripping the hardest off the photons will do there job in adding in even more electrons being stripped from the atoms. Since both are working 180 degrees out of phase the atoms never get a break.


h2opower.
If they are serious then they need to add in all the works of Viktor Schauberger. For his theories aid humanity in just about every field that truly matters, from farming and planting trees, to power generation, and so much more. The longer the world stays away from his technology the worste things will get, until we reach the tipping point of no return. For once that point is reached then all we can do is wait to see who makes it as the earth takes it's time in healing all the damage that was done to it. For if we keep this type of living up we will destroy the earths ability to support our type of life and it will get rid of us all.


h2opower.

A question about Youtube

#4 ·

This is an example of what I am talking about for this site had a video taken off of You Tube: Electron Extraction Circuit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Clafqu0Xw6E

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Stanley Meyer.

Just who are they to put a copyright claim on technology that is in the public domain! This is why I don't trust that site for their heart seems to be in it for the money.

Progressive Automotive X PRIZE Community :: View topic - Water as fuel


h2opower.

patmac wrote:

Yes H2Opower

If yours North-American people wants modify the system, I think that Parlamentary System like Italy can works. President is eliminated the system is directed by First Minister but strong discussion must be approved by the parlament this avoid and blocks a possible dictatorman.
As far as I can tell they are not planning on giving the people anything but fear and more fear. They have set up these prisons all over the country and those prisons are ment for us, "We The People," as we fight back. Even after watching all of the video's of Edward Bernays they sometimes are still able to pull the wool over my eye's though not for a long prieod of time. But none of the propaganda and/or commershales work on me anymore.

One thing I worry about this patent is they might be stepping on the toes of Dr. Lindemann's works, for he is working his butt off on the technology, and they seem to want to just come in and take it and shelve it. I hope they don't try it for their sake .


h2opower.

future pather wrote:

I'm not pro or anti Gates, I really don't know anything from the inside.

But I have a hard time equating Planned Parenthood with sterilization. Usually that organization is about providing options, but I don't know about this particular situation.

Also consider, there is a very real overpopulation problem in many less affluent countries. That would in no way justify imposed sterilization, but it does make a case for providing options to people that they might not otherwise have.


Jessica
It is apart of their Eugenics program:
Eugenics - Google Video
Eugenics - Google Video Eugenics - Google Video
It's hard to swallow I know, but it is the truth of what they are doing. I have seen it first hand being praticed. Right now there is so much going on to control the minds of the masses that most have no concept of what is going on around them. Example, global warming. Did you know that all of the planets in our solar system are also heating up? Ask yourself why is that? Look up Edward Bernays, "The Century of the Self, " The Century Of The Self - Part 1 of 4 - By Adam Curtis for once you learn those mind control methods your eyes should open up to what is going on around you. For right now you are wittnessing one of their plans going into effect, and that is these ecconomic problems. What they are trying to do is create the North American Union, doing away with our Constitution, and the medi is controled by them so what you see on the news is more or less just for enterainment purposes with no real news content in it. What does it mean to be a citizen?
medical front: In Lies We Trust
and the list goes on and on.

I find that most people I run into have never read the Consitution or Bill of Rights, and most people don't know the differance between a Democracy and a Republic. Our media sells us Democracy all the time, in movies, and so on. Our founding fathers never put the word Democracy in for a reason, for Democracies don't work. YouTube - Real America 2 0f 4

Your learning has just begun


h2opower.
I too have been following this, but only because I wanted to know what they where up too. I know a lot of little turths of Billl Gates, like the very large donation to Africa was to cut the population not to help anyone as it all went to planned parenthood focusing on steralizations.

That why I thank God for what Stanley Meyer did for us all, he got the needed patents so if we stay within 14% of them we can be protected under Stanley Meyer's hard work of patenting everything. But I too notice that the big hho push seem to push down any ideas that come from Boyce, Dr. Dingel, Stanley Meyer, and many others with ideas of energy independence. Albert Bowes water for fuel system also works but can be much improoved apon using Stanley Meyer patents. Just think of it, Dr. Dingel finally got an automotive company to pay him any attention and within the next few weeks he is jailed for life, for 20 years to life at the age of 82 is a life sentence. They want to switch over to hydrgen use but one in which they control and doesn't interupt there profits. The Genepax invetion should have swept the globe by now, but there is no news from them. They know the days of fossile fuel burning are coming to an end, but are not willing to lift there stronge hold of control of the worlds population through the control of all of the energy markets.

The last thing they want is people becoming energy independent even though that makes the nation super strong. Think about it this way, if you wanted to cut the power to large sections of the US how would you go about doing it? Now try and do the same thing when everyone is creating his/her own energy at the source what must you do to accomplish the same mission? Answer is go door to door and cut the power one by one, not something that can be done very easily. Now that is some food for thought


h2opower.

Aromaz wrote:

Did you actually build the contraption? That is the only true proof. I have
never seen another presentation of this fuel cell. I have seen and I have
been interested; actually mesmerized is a better word. I did try some of the
concepts in experiments, and so did many other people - all just to fail.

"In 1996, inventor Stanley Meyer was sued by two investors to whom
he had sold dealerships........Meyer made what Professor Laughton considered
a "lame excuse" on the days of examination and did not allow the test to proceed."
Stanley Meyer's water fuel cell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Just go over the math I presented for Stanley Meyer's technology is not what everyone thinks it is. There is no magic, no energy from the vacuum, no zero point energy, just plan old science. The reaction is simple, atomized water mist that is given a positive charge, ionized air gases, and recirculated exhuast gases, and that is it. Took me some time to figure it all out and belive me Stanley Meyer didn't make it easy. For the most part what I have done is give proof of concept. I brought science back in the game and show'd just where all the energy was coming from. Everyone has been focusing on the Water Fuel Capacitor(WFC), when that is not the true source of power. In the end Stanley Meyer himself got rid of the WFC. But it became too simple so Meyer started missleading everyone, for the most part he let the na sayers tell how they thought it might work and went along with them.

The math I shown is something you can sink your teeth into for it is real, and if you were in college testable. I ask you to read the whole post and remember I was learning more about it as I progressed. No one the world over has ever explained the works of Stanley Meyer the way I did, with real science, and no made up terms designed to stop people from thinking like zero point energy. It is mostly just chemistry for the most part, take the time to go over all that I shared with everyone, and you will see that energy independence is now ours for the taking.

If you go over the court trial papers you will see Stanley Meyer was rail roaded and it was anything but a fare trail.


h2opower.
I feel the same way you do. But more importantly on this very site I have given all the need to know information on getting Stanley Meyer patent up and going. I have given the key to the technology, shown the math if where the energy is truly coming from, and it seems like no one in the world cares.

People talk about off topic stuff and not the content of what has been given to them as a gift. I didn't ask for anything or charge anyone for a glimps of the key to Stanley Meyer's technology. I just did the right thing and gave the technology away for free. The patent has expired, so anyone can now make Stanley Meyer technology work. http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post37266 Here it is for the whole world to have the answer everyone has been looking for in Stanley Meyer's work.


h2opower.

Aromaz wrote:

I read, and read again. I was hoping to see something more powerful.
Yet I feel totally confused: Working...proven....do research....need to
develop? There is a red balance sheet here!

Nobody even did proper research! All is like clips from Overunity.com -
dreams. Very narrowly considered. This document even fails to refer to
some devices that were in fact operational AND working - by name, date,
inventor and results.....

Fortunately I am not in USA nor American, so the rest of the world
is fairly free of the problems you have.

However, with what I know and understand, I would not expect
this document to go very far.

1. 80% is based on theories of Dr. Tom Bearden - THEORIES; with all respect.
2. To date, none of these has been achieved nor proven.
3. A call might be made, which will ask for practical proof
- which you can not provide.
4. You are asking for funds - to do RESEARCH and devellopment
- all based on unproven theory.

Unless you can come up with somehting concrete, I do not think
this document will make any impression.

Besides, many of the things you are talking about are already in operation;
but they can not reveal it, or release it into public - for fear of people like
me that is sitting in Thailand. Technology like "COUNTER-gravity", ionic
propulsion (re. Lifter) are already in use for air and space crafts - and fairly
public knowledge!

As Investor, I can guarantee you this will not go off as investment;
way out too vague. You give a budget, but no business plan?

Anyway, as I said, I am not American, so who knows; you might be lucky.

I prepared an eleven hour presentation to my investors;
and even me alone has plenty more facts presented there.

Personal advice: Make a video presentation, cut it to be less than 20 minutes.
And use FACTS, demonstrations. Forget about the numbers, that can come
much later. Get the attention first, open your door.

A video presentation is worth a trillion words.

As for Pres. Obama - I have great respect for him and I do think he has
all the potential of being your best President ever. AND he is very intelligent,
way out more than all your other politicians. He knows how to play the ball
game there - not by learning from others; but by his own instinct.