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baroutologos

13 posts · 2 threads started · 113 more in threads this archive does not carry · writing between May 2009 and Feb 2010

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@Suchayo,

Here is the pic you asked. The outline was changed. Instead of direct cap discharge, a toroid wound with 18awg at 3 taps (3,5 - 17 - 43mH) for moderating the spike.

The diode bridge, again blown. I will remove it for all.

Have fun, and take care.
Dangerous Desuplhator XxX

I had some fun with an improvised battery desulphator the day before.

I have ready assebled an 555time-ignition coil- bridge - 26nF caps and a adjustable magnetic quenched spark-gap with carbon electrodes.

I arranged my system in such way as between the cap and spark-gap to be my 12v battery!
If spike is what we want, then SPIKE we shall have!
The voltage is regulated via adjusting the spark-gap. i calculate from 1Kv-10Kv i can vary the distance.
I tried to put a 1000v 6amp diode bridge so as only to charge the battery, but bridge burnout the instance the machine operated.

So far, i operate it at the 1 Kv level cap discharge. The battery is not charging virtually since the current oscillates from the cap at discharge, but I think it desulphates it a LOT.

in any case, serious rf with a NE-2 bulb is detected at battery terminals that way.

attention: Batteries are liable to explode that way!
Those exctaclty key points i have on my mind. We are bound at making rough, primitive devices, decorated with high tech stuff as transistors etc.

The point is, i hope, somehow we perceive an easy way to go - has to be- and then we start outsourcing the machining, etc etc

Baroutologos
Sorry for not being that specific.
Measurements mostly taken are for discharging the battery. Previous charging has been made with DC current as well as from SSG at various voltages. (9,15,20,37)

When pulse charging, measurements of efficiency are based are on the input side of SSG. Not to the output since pulsed and difficult to measure.

i calculate the C rate of charging, by simply see what kind of discharge to a known Ah capacity battery has been achieved and how much time it gets to restore full potential. Lots of room for minor deviations and errors here but you get the overal picture accurate enough.


Baroutologos
C rates at charging / discharging

Somehow distant from original topic but i think worths a repetition.
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The only thing that i can safely conclude and hugely affects the COP obtained is the battery discharge rate.

C10 to C20 can have as much as 10-20% more efficiency in power out of battery.
C1 to c10 can have as 30-50% more effcieciency in my setups.
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I calculated that my newly conversed alum battery (previously factory ranked 6Ah lead acid-flooded type, in a:
* 1.65 Amps draw lasts about 1hour. (hence 1,65 Ah)
* 0.26 Amps draw lasts about 9 hours ( 2.35 Ah)
And if i stay in the C20 (0.15 amps) i expect somewhere 2,8 Ah)

Ok, nothing new actually. Well known facts.
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On the other hand i find the charging of the battery is far more efficient in terms of efficiency than discharging. So charging in C20 or C10 or C5 little efficiency is obtaining by going higher C rates.

baroutologos
Foreword: I have searched this forum and failed to locate any specific thread on this topic alone. Much of it is incorporated in SSG thread. By the way i feel it is an important (the most important?) aspect of utilizing the impulsive "spike" technology by the battery use.
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Anyone with a mediocre experience (As me) in the field of Bedini technology or others dealing with the impulsive state of electricity, can finally understand that at best their machines, if working properly, output pulses of electricity either of higher or lower frequency / voltage.

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The common place at utilizing those impulses is the use of capacitor or even a battery as Bedini suggests.
Refraining from further "theory" i urge anyone willing to report their own experience and data (if handy), of how the COP of his/her machine increases/stays the same/decreases by repeated cycling of the batteries used i.e. "conditioning process".

Different batteries chemistries, sizes, C rates of charging/discharging, output current going to battery you name what, are to be considered here.

Feel free to add anything you think is relevant.

Baroutologos
Thanks Cody for feedback.

Yes indeed the normal alum is acidic in solution. However there have been (claimed) successful recoveries with silicate alums or even NaOH or KOH solutions.

Regarding performances for best performance for pulse charging could be
1) type of electrolyte solution composion
2) % solution
3) Times cycled
4) go figure...

Typically, it is said that at 10 or max 20 cycles you must have come near or above at original new battery specs...

i am gonna try it myself also, should work allow

Baroutologos
Thanks Seph for the thread in this forum. I was not aware of that.

By the way, as i see it, alcaline or alum/lead based batteries offer a possibility of a method reclaiming old lead/acid ones. (not damaged ones)

By the way, it is understood that those type of batteries, once created are almost useless. They have to undergo severe charging / discharging process in order to have comparable results (or some claim better) than standard lead/acid batteries.

This sound like improving or even conditioning. Maybe they give better COP with pulsers? who knows..


Baroutologos
I have been stimulated by SL3 and searched a bit the Net about lead acid batteries conversion to alcaline electrolyte based ones.

Claims range from moderate to extraordinary results. Please post your experience here.

Furthermore, the pulse charging/ decharging behaviour of the converted batteries is to be discussed here.

An initial well known link to ponder Sepp Hasslberger: How to convert a Lead Acid Battery into an Alkaline Battery

Also see Bedini's vid here BatteryForming_2008_04_25_16_16_47.wmv

Any experience? Does it worth it?

Baroutologos
the same old story...

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I have studied some further into the issue and the inventor of the multipactor tubes it is said that call them consistently OU devices.
By the way, in order to avoid hot anodes etc ect we can employ Tesla coils of high RF and voltage for the multipactor effect to accur.

It is amazing what those Tesla coils could do. They can light in cold FL lamps, decompose water, almost everything due to their high energtic nature. The question is are OU? Again if they are in what setup? is it easy the setup to be made or require CERN facilities?

Can we expect FE from this direction with modest means?

Baroutologos
thanks for this interesting article radiant_sciene.

By the way commenting by guys as Michael John Nunnerley are rediculous at least. He responds as if is the master of OU, but his leaps are sealed.

pls, make us a favour...


regards,
Baroutologos
in the pages of Felix Ehrenhaft research, i have read that after the experiments magnets will be exhuasted.

is there any net gain? this exhaustion observation does it relate to other OU projects?

regards,
Baroutologos