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Bloom Energy's "Bloom Box"

#13 ·

Listen again

Cherryman;

In other words:

Clean? maybe (It still needs some kind of fuel)

Renewable? Doesn't look like it

Free?: No
He said you can run it on any fuel, including solar, and I assume methane which could be produced from many sources. Also claimed it will run for 30-50 years as it has no moving parts. Also, at $3,000.00-$15,000 not free, but it's a bargain and would pay for itself in 1-5 years or less. I think the people at Google, Fedex, or others he mentioned figured that out & they are no dummies. Neither is Bloom Tech; at the prices they are charging for the current large units they have sold ($750,000-$850,000) and installed they have already recovered a healthy chunk of their investment.

Sucahyo;
Fuel cell is not green, do not reduce pollution, do not reduce our dependency to fossil fuel as long as industry still use fossil fuel to produce the hydrogen. They not going to use solar or wind soon enough to prevent the additional pollution by fuel cell technology. Don't expect the industry will use alternative method of producing hydrogen because for safety, the hydrogen produced must be 99.99% free of oxygen. A little bit of oxygen in storage means kaboom.
Yesterday 12:29
What Hydrogen: what stored Oxygen? He only mentions air and a fuel to run it. That fuel is used chemically, not burned. Notice no exhaust pipe sticking out anywhere. I suspect he has different models to run on solar, etc. or the current model can be adapted to any fuel source. As the fuel and air going in appear to be totally consumed in the chemical process and the only product of the cell is electricity, what pollution?

Jibb;
But i did find it interesting that not one word about it being used in "vehicles" was mentioned: Is "60 Minutes" that ignorant; not to ask so elemental a question? I think not
On the whole a good post. I had the same thought and I think they are probably already working on that and will deploy it when they get the size down and can mass produce them, same problems as on the large units. They are still a relatively small company and can only do so much at a time. I think K.R.'s attitude shows his desire is to truly produce an invention he is proud of and which will benefit mankind. As to secrecy, who would not keep their work secret until all was ready to reveal and patented to protect their investors and keep it from being pirated by other companies like G.E. or Westinghouse? Most of the components like the actual cell and the inks could not be replicated by small inventors in any case for individual replication even if they looked the patents up.

In any case this was an initial announcement to spur interest. I'm sure more detailed info. will be provided as the story develops that will answer many questions and end a lot of speculation. Just give it time and see what develops. In the meantime I just hope some gigantic company doesn't buy them out and bury it, scuttle it, or raise the price so it becomes unaffordable.

Al

Merry Christmas!!!

#8 ·

Happy Birthday Jesus!!









And a merry Christmas to all and a happy and prosperous New Year!



Al

eygptian light

#8 ·

monsterman wrote:

i got the pictures from that site but the program i seen was many years ago in canada
Hey Monsterman.

Since I saw it in the U.S.A. several years ago and you saw it in Canada they probably showed it in both countries around the same time.

As to pictures check out the top one here;

Ancient Egyptian Science, Alchemy

As there are plenty of hieroglyphics on the wall in this scene I think a qualified Eqyptologist could tell us what was going on here as was done in the last part of the article I posted previously.

Al

eygptian light

#5 ·

Egyptian lights

Aaron wrote:

Hi Monsterman,

Was this on Discovery or History channel or something similar?
Sounds very interesting. Do you recall any part of the name of the documentary?
Hi Aaron.

I saw that same program, so it must have been on Nova, etc. Here's an article on the lights and someone who pretty much discredits the idea.



Al

rickoff wrote:

Hi folks,

This Firestorm Plug thread started me thinking about a tech note that was posted May 12th in the files section at WaterFuel1978 : Water Fuel

The tech note describes and shows a homemade conversion of a spark plug to a dual anode coaxial plasma fired water injector plug. The prototype looks like it could definitely work, and might be worth considering for experimentation and enhancement. The author is freely sharing the concept, and there is no patent pending. [ATTACH]559[/ATTACH]

Anyone interested?

Best regards, Rickoff
Hi Rickoff!
That is an interesting concept. However I don't know of an epoxy that would not melt from the operating temp. of the engine & let the plug either short out or blow the whole center of the plug out when it softened up.
Also the compression would blow the water backwards(yes I see the valve, don't believe it would stop it; probably blow it apart too.) Why not just build the anodes solid(no water injector tube in the middle) & run the water in through the intake manifold or existing fuel system?
Also looks really hard to assemble so that all parts are insulated from each other, at least in most workshops.
Then there is the problem of the power supplies, oversized alternators, inverters, & basically re-wiring the ignition system
I think this is way too much for the average person to tackle(or even most above average people.)
Much easier to build a set of firestorm plugs using non-foulers as the plug body & couple that with HHO as the fuel. A lot safer too.