Damien wrote:
This seem quite similar to some of the information in the ebook posted by adam ant. If you look in the book under etheric conduit energy source it talks about a process which seems to be the same thing. It talks about finding the greatest energy potiential between 2 rods.
I suggest you guys check it out.
im sure adam ant will add something to this topic.
amigo
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An identity on Energetic Forum as it was harvested, not an account on this site. Nobody here has claimed it, and nothing connects it to a person by name.
Ok, I'll assume this is not a hoax so I'll theorize on what's in the videos.
The fellow mentions that the rods are composed of 73 and 74 elements respectively. He does not say whether they are unique chemical elements or compounds, though reading the comments to videos, someone suggested that it might be actually element 73 and 74 (Tantalum and Tungsten/Wolfram).
In any case, if we think in the way of batteries, they commonly use two different elements with fairly opposite electro-potentials submerged in an electrolyte. So in this case we have two rods of unknown electro-potentials in air (aether?)
Since he is using a normal light bulb (25 W) in the demonstration I have to think there's some electron movement happening else it would not lit?
The two rods interact with the air and there's electron movement from one to the other. I would think that the resistance of the rods/air circuit is pretty high as well since he is touching them closing the loop and not getting shocked. He does say that the power output of that configuration is around 18 W while the light bulb is 25 W so the light does not shine as bright, bur never the less.
Your thoughts on the above are welcome.
The fellow mentions that the rods are composed of 73 and 74 elements respectively. He does not say whether they are unique chemical elements or compounds, though reading the comments to videos, someone suggested that it might be actually element 73 and 74 (Tantalum and Tungsten/Wolfram).
In any case, if we think in the way of batteries, they commonly use two different elements with fairly opposite electro-potentials submerged in an electrolyte. So in this case we have two rods of unknown electro-potentials in air (aether?)
Since he is using a normal light bulb (25 W) in the demonstration I have to think there's some electron movement happening else it would not lit?
The two rods interact with the air and there's electron movement from one to the other. I would think that the resistance of the rods/air circuit is pretty high as well since he is touching them closing the loop and not getting shocked. He does say that the power output of that configuration is around 18 W while the light bulb is 25 W so the light does not shine as bright, bur never the less.
Your thoughts on the above are welcome.
Anyone knows what this is, who this fellow is and how he does this?
YouTube - free energy elemental rod generator video 1
YouTube - free energy elemental rod generator video 2
YouTube - free energy elemental rod generator video 1
YouTube - free energy elemental rod generator video 2
Peter Lindemann wrote:
Amigo,
The simplest circuit to use is based on the solid-state oscillator found on page 46 of Bearden's book Free Energy Generation. The trigger winding is connected to the transistor base with a 2k resistor, and the base is connected to the Emitter with a 10K resistor and to the collector with an 18K resistor. This arrangement sets the TRANSISTOR into oscillation. This is what John called his "self-oscillating" circuit. Not all transistors will oscillate this way, but some will. The BD234C is one that works. A single diode off the second winding (like the Simplified School Girl circuit) goes to the positive silver electrode and the negative silver electrode is connected to the top of the coil. The third coil and everything else can be eliminated.
This circuit makes excellent, small particle colloidal silver.
Peter
I do not have that book yet, would it be possible for you to post the circuit here instead? Does that circuit still need moving parts (motor assembly with magnets)?
Thanks again.
adam ant wrote:
to aaron and amigo,
amigo, you are correct that the ancient egyptians, and also sumerians (and even beyond that) were involved with techniques that produced monatomic and duatomic elements.(that is, elements broken down to their single atom or pair of atoms)
one of the main people that i originally started with was Laurence Gardner and also Barry Carter. they have instituted the monatomic gold phenomina that is sweeping the internet right now.
HOWEVER!! it has been proven that gold CANNOT exist in it's monatomic form for more than a few moments, due to its odd numbered electron shell. the outer shell is incomplete as an odd number and MUST combine with another of its kind in order to exist.
also, they use lye burn methods which actually destroys the best parts of the product they are trying to create.
we have already proven that any form of burn, freeze, electricute, pound, or otherwise force to transmute elements is not cost effective, very difficult, and involves comples technologies. our understanding is in how all elements resonate according to a harmonic scale(cymatics), and can be GENTLY rattled into other elements. we basically "sing" to them in order to get what we want.(sing is a play on words, not literal)
transmutation can be done in room temperature conditions, with basic equipment that Mr. Lindemann, Mr. Bedini, Aaron and most others here probably have in their labs right now.
You said above that gold does not exist for long in monoatomic form, is that the ORMUS gold you were referring to that we see being sold on the Web by others, or the gold you produce as well?
If your gold is different, than is it diatomic, to compensate for the missing electron in the last orbit?
So, we can produce our own monoatomic elements using standard lab bench equipment? Are these applicable for healing purposes or is your field of research elsewhere?
Peter Lindemann wrote:
Amigo,
Thanks for the link to my article "with corrections." Actually, the corrections are marketing statements to promote their constant current CS generator. My article was written in the spring of 1997. It was the first, authoritative article on the subject written to give the average person accurate information about how to make colloidal silver easily and safely AT HOME with a handful of batteries and some silver strips.
...snip...
So, I thoroughly reject the so-called "corrections" to my article. These statements are only relatively correct themselves and do not make my statements wrong within their context.
Peter
I get a feeling you got a bit upset about me using that article with "corrections" as a statement of fact, believe me that was not my intent. On the contrary, I did hope to get your perspective on the "corrections" because I knew that silvergen.com like any other vendor was trying to push their product and back it up by attaching themselves to a "known" name - in this case you.
Again, I apologize if I came on in a wrong way and I do appreciate your answers, clearly given from a volume of experience to help a n00b here
Thanks!
Aaron wrote:
Amigo,
This one
oscillates and is basically the sg circuit with high resistance. you don't need all the cap pulsing stuff on the back end. Circuits meant to be oscillators are slightly different. Should be some floating around the internet somewhere.
thanks, though that looks like it still needs the magnetic wheel and if I understoodd what Peter meant, solid-state refers to having non-movable parts?
Although, that is interesting, due to the high-resistance it could be interfaced with human skin perhaps to deliver RE directly, just not sure how wise would that be.
adam ant wrote:
Very interesting! Please share whatever you can
i am currently involved with a company that can produce Hyper-Colloidal minerals. this essentially means they are broken down as far as they can physically go. (monoatomic/diatomic sizes)
this is only the beginning, as they can further compress the atomic structures into even finer sizes
and ultimately we can even energize these into room temperature Quantum Conduits otherwise known as superconductors. (Crystalline Metals (muff)/ Metallic Crystals)
please dont ask for proprietary info, we are not allowed to discuss technological details, only what can and cannot be done.
we have an already proven technology that can make a 1" x 1" Quantum Conduit supply 3 volts virtually forever.
Are these going to have solely energetic applications, because most things I've read about monoatomic elements was for healing purposes (ORMUS and such) but even then I am not sure how effective they really are.
Though if I recall correctly, there were some hints that ancient Egyptians were using monoatomic elements for health or other non-energetic purposes?
Hi Peter,
I have read that article awhile ago actually and the version I read had comments from a company SilverGen.com, where they refute some of the claims made in the article. See for yourself: http://www.dreamweaver.ltd.uk/Electr...Lindermann.pdf
I also remember reading the excerpt from the "Practical Colloid Chemistry" book about "Colours of Colloidal Metals", again thanks to your find, that was an eye opener as well.
My question now is does the constant current matter or not in your opinion and experience?
I have built all kinds of circuits that regulated current, switched polarity and what not and ran dozens of tests with half a dozen brands of distilled water. I found that the more complex electronics was and more science involved lesser was the TDS/PPM of my solution - go figure.
In the article you mention 30V as the best voltage for CS, so how would it work in the case of Radiant Oscillators or SG circuits that do not have fixed voltage per-se but are based on spikes?
Also, where do I find information and circuits for the solid-state Radiant Oscillators you mention? Why is that most people (even those who sell CS generators) still use standard battery/DC methods with current limiting instead of Radiant energy sources?
Many thanks!
I have read that article awhile ago actually and the version I read had comments from a company SilverGen.com, where they refute some of the claims made in the article. See for yourself: http://www.dreamweaver.ltd.uk/Electr...Lindermann.pdf
I also remember reading the excerpt from the "Practical Colloid Chemistry" book about "Colours of Colloidal Metals", again thanks to your find, that was an eye opener as well.
My question now is does the constant current matter or not in your opinion and experience?
I have built all kinds of circuits that regulated current, switched polarity and what not and ran dozens of tests with half a dozen brands of distilled water. I found that the more complex electronics was and more science involved lesser was the TDS/PPM of my solution - go figure.
In the article you mention 30V as the best voltage for CS, so how would it work in the case of Radiant Oscillators or SG circuits that do not have fixed voltage per-se but are based on spikes?
Also, where do I find information and circuits for the solid-state Radiant Oscillators you mention? Why is that most people (even those who sell CS generators) still use standard battery/DC methods with current limiting instead of Radiant energy sources?
Many thanks!
Hi Aaron,
Thanks for your reply.
I am still not sold out on the particles theory doing the "job". As you probably know there are two schools of thought, one is favouring particles, while the other is talking about ionic silver, where particles are not as predominant factor.
I think when we measure PPM in our home environments, we are actually measuring conductivity suggesting ions rather than particle concentrations. The only way to find out particle size and density would be under electron microscope and thus the company you mentioned claims 0.8 nm particle size - they had most likely done the electron microscope analysis.
In any case, I would appreciate suggestions from you or anyone else reading this on what would be the best approach to generating RE and using its potential as an energy source in the CS process.
Do I stick with SG motor and use that as a source, or are there better more suitable sources of RE? Should I rectify the potential or do I apply it directly without rectification?
Thanks for your reply.
I am still not sold out on the particles theory doing the "job". As you probably know there are two schools of thought, one is favouring particles, while the other is talking about ionic silver, where particles are not as predominant factor.
I think when we measure PPM in our home environments, we are actually measuring conductivity suggesting ions rather than particle concentrations. The only way to find out particle size and density would be under electron microscope and thus the company you mentioned claims 0.8 nm particle size - they had most likely done the electron microscope analysis.
In any case, I would appreciate suggestions from you or anyone else reading this on what would be the best approach to generating RE and using its potential as an energy source in the CS process.
Do I stick with SG motor and use that as a source, or are there better more suitable sources of RE? Should I rectify the potential or do I apply it directly without rectification?
I'll stick this subject here since I do not know where else it might go and it sort of applies to alternative science.
For the past few months I have been experimenting with production of ionic/colloidal silver (from now on CS), trying to get as high concentration in PPM as possible. Basically we are conducting electrolysis of pure silver (99.99%) in distilled water (DW) to create a solution of silver ions (Ag+). Ideally we are looking for highest ionic concentration possible or highest particular solution.
If you look around there the Web, there are usual methods of creating silver colloid, either through DC (most common) or through AC current. Few weeks ago I got a crazy idea to try and use radiant energy as a power source for the process. So first thing I stumbled upon was JB's SSG and so decided to use that as a basic design and source of radiant potential. I liked the fact that the motor was self regulating to the load, so in this case it would figure itself out what it needs to provide for the electrolysis.
A consensus among CS enthusiasts is that you need to supply constant current to the circuit to achieve good PPM. Various people have built various circuits that do this, using anything from 12V up to 160V and more. The amount of current is computed by factoring the surface of the electrodes, and usually for home setups is between 500uA to 2mA.
Now I understand that in the orthodox approach a current is needed for the process but after seeing talks about Radiant H2O it made me think that RE could be applied in this case and possibly produce some results.
Since most of you here have more experience with RE sources than me, I would appreciate feedback on what would be the best way of approaching this matter (electrolysis of silver for production of CS), things like what would be an ideal source of RE (right now I thought of using SG but if there is a better one please advise); what's your take on anything actually happening; should RE have to be rectified or not (pulses exist in both cases but one is DC and the other is AC potential, no?) ...
If you need more details about CS here is a link I usually use as a reference or you can just google for colloidal silver and get tons of other links:
SilverSol - Silver Ions in Solution
Thanks.
For the past few months I have been experimenting with production of ionic/colloidal silver (from now on CS), trying to get as high concentration in PPM as possible. Basically we are conducting electrolysis of pure silver (99.99%) in distilled water (DW) to create a solution of silver ions (Ag+). Ideally we are looking for highest ionic concentration possible or highest particular solution.
If you look around there the Web, there are usual methods of creating silver colloid, either through DC (most common) or through AC current. Few weeks ago I got a crazy idea to try and use radiant energy as a power source for the process. So first thing I stumbled upon was JB's SSG and so decided to use that as a basic design and source of radiant potential. I liked the fact that the motor was self regulating to the load, so in this case it would figure itself out what it needs to provide for the electrolysis.
A consensus among CS enthusiasts is that you need to supply constant current to the circuit to achieve good PPM. Various people have built various circuits that do this, using anything from 12V up to 160V and more. The amount of current is computed by factoring the surface of the electrodes, and usually for home setups is between 500uA to 2mA.
Now I understand that in the orthodox approach a current is needed for the process but after seeing talks about Radiant H2O it made me think that RE could be applied in this case and possibly produce some results.
Since most of you here have more experience with RE sources than me, I would appreciate feedback on what would be the best way of approaching this matter (electrolysis of silver for production of CS), things like what would be an ideal source of RE (right now I thought of using SG but if there is a better one please advise); what's your take on anything actually happening; should RE have to be rectified or not (pulses exist in both cases but one is DC and the other is AC potential, no?) ...
If you need more details about CS here is a link I usually use as a reference or you can just google for colloidal silver and get tons of other links:
SilverSol - Silver Ions in Solution
Thanks.