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wrtner wrote:

New Zealand Patent No. 92428.
AWEsome contribution !
If I can understand that those
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courageous and curious contributors did NOT even have access to this patent document at the time !

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This is Peter Davey's hard to find New Zealand patent 92428 for his immersion boiler.


However it appears somewhat different from the ball system we all saw on the videos...

Anyway, that is really highly contributing...thanks for sharing...Werner !!

wrtner wrote:

Peter Daysh Davey was awarded a New Zealand patent, back in the 60s, I think. The basis of his invention is the tuning of the bells to the fr3quency (usually an octave of it) of the mains AC voltage. There are all sorts of reasons why this might work.




The Dumas idea seems to be Davey without the tuning.
A patent for Mr Davey would have allowed people to compare the two systems, which have similarities. But such plans were never disclosed, nor a patent. However, it it false to say one is inspired by the other, since Mr Dumas has never been aware of Mr Davey's about his own invention. His invention has been disclosed to the public to make it non pantentable, to avoid its suppression, as for many others in the past, and to drive the world to a new Paradigm; which comprises the desalinization of sea water. As such, all technical details have been *offered for free* to you...
And the two systems have similarities ; like the two D of their respective inventors...

bob smith wrote:

Hi Folks,

I was stumbling by accident of this thread, and was wondering if this is not warmup of a invention from a New Zealand Feller, who was struggling his whole life to get a patent for his invention but it was never granted to him.

But may look for your self!



Love and Light

BNW
You are right, Dumas 's Sphere and Peter Davey 's have *some* similarities.
wrtner, you are so right ! I welcome you to join on the ride.
The inventor says that you just need to link multiple spheres to multiply the OU. I am not quite sure what he means by that, but I am going to do it. First to make a few spheres and then chain link , and observe, both the consumption, and the output.
I would hope the output would be multiplied but the consumption, not. Let's say the inventor will clarify that.
I remeber that he states that clearly a chain of spheres would be able to replace whole nuclear plants at once, with 1,000 of spheres, so I believe taht's really what's going on here ! And that would be HH-OOO-TT !

For the OU 1.17 in the field of experiemental error, I would not hit that road again, because 1,17 has been the least -least observation they made. I would say that this 1,17 is what they observed, having stripped out the observational noise error, but I admit this is what I feel about it. I get this flavor of course because I have read so many replies from the inventor in french on the FB page, and his coworkers.
Anyway, I am trusting the whole demonstration as to have been made by true thermodynamics physicists as being way more competent than me; so to me I consider ex ante that the 1,17 is the point of start. You can of course prefer the prudent way.

wrtner wrote:

I don't think he ever pretended that he knew.
Is there a difference between how to produce an effect you don't necessarily understand and nevertheless share its motus operandi with others , and describe a phenomena with a theory...mind ; theories have a life span. Experience does not ever

BTW, thanks for sharing his personal life; I was not aware of this.
Clever post, wrtner !!

wrtner wrote:

The hemispheres (bells) must be tuned accurately to an octave of the mains frequency being used.[/url]
I personally would flee off that thing, as looking too scaringly difficult to be correctly built. In a humble comparison I say that's miles away from the simple, breeze design of Mr Dumas.

wrtner wrote:

This idea is interesting; it is like Davey without the tuning, and as such, I doubt it works.
I am not aware that anybody got the Daveys replications to work, since the tuning was itself backward-engineered , with suppositions.

wrtner wrote:

The problem is that the COP is so marginal that it is well within experimental error, and makes the whole thing a bit pointless. (Who gets out of bed for a COP of 1.17?).
The experiments have been done several times with several "testifiers", and always demonstrated in the OU ; only the last one in Nice in september 2013 was put "money on" to bring in physicists and a thermician and public attorney to have something to show with calculations.
If you have something so easy to build and having a better COP, then please share it...

Kiril_Kirilov wrote:

This "Duma's Effect" is long ago dicovered ...
First, you do know that Mr Davey never let it open to the public as how his invention worked.
The reverse engineering has been done by various people , and there was never a successful demonstration of a >1 OU nor of a easy prototype or way of builing it fastly, easily, and accurately , nor of a clear demonstration of the principles (or supposed principles ) at work. But you have everything of this in the Dumas's notice, and various Mr Dumas's public demonstrations.
Second, you are detecting apparent (let me stress that word, apparent) similarities with the Dumas's Sphere with what was *understood* of Mr Davey's effect. You are right, those are for instance, the similar shape, the effect of instant boiling, the AC current...which lets both of us wondering.
Third, are you detecting the differences ? They are : the perfect sphere shape in Jean Christophe's design, the space of 1,62 millimeters of the sphere and the half sphere, the AC is 220v / 50 hz or 60 hz (or around that value). Those differences just are central to Jean-Christophe 's design.

Nothing is stealed or robbed, the mind thinks robbery and robberies are then seen. Jean-Christophe has never been knowing about the Dumas effect (you are even been more informed than he ever was when he worked on the effect) as he has revealed recently, and I personally fully trust him.
hi zpdm (who ever this may be )

yes I have replicated the basis of this, and uploaded 2 youtube videos here
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and here
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I have of course not evaluated the OU since I trust the people having worked specifically on this. I currently am involved in mastering the effect. I am currently producing more of less of the effect with 400 watts as you will see on the videos. I have no goal, but if I can go along nicely then I may be able to heat my house this winter for those 400 watts i.e. to replicate the inventor's prototype. The inventor said having done so this winter. This project is a nice go-along thing and given that he, and a lot of disinterested people are sharing their experience around it, it's definitely the best almost free energy project I can trust those days, and probably a 2014's "best-of" to heat your house this winter !! Hundreds of people in France are already working on this project...I suggest you to check the web site and the FB page which is even a real time event thing for that project , now.

Greets my watts
this is a translation I made of the latest post made from the "team o'sharers"* in "downtown France" !
Check , it is just brilliant of intelligence and generosity.


* people having gathered in a profit less organization to widepsread this new "free energy" technology.

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We gathered 60 ... BUT BY A PROMPT RENFORT became 6000 !

We counted on the presence of sixty friends during the evening presentation of the Dumas resonator , on April 7. And we ended up 231 ! Two months later, we had 6,000 friends on Facebook. Astonishing path ... Does the secret of the (media) success of the Dumas effect lie in the magic of this small metal ball with unique electro-physical properties? Or in the fascination that the revolutionary perspective of a easy and verifiable access to the famous OVERUNITY promised by the theory of free energy exerts ? Or in the deeply humanistic approach to its discoverer, who decides to offer humanity his discovery? Maybe all these items at once.

I'm more of a poet than a physicist by training but I must say that beyond all these mentioned, what motivates me now more than ever to support wholeheartedly the Dumas revolution are three elements that occured after the famous April 7, 2014.
Namely: 1 / The suspect rush "high grade" trolls on the FB page.
2 / The absurd attacks.
3 / Direct support by physicists determined to break the silence maintained by the feudal energy organizations of this world.

1 / The rush of trolls:

Expected, it was predictable if not written in advance. What was the least that was the online uprising of some of them as displayed engineers, whose determination to fight Dumas effect left us wondering ... Like many others, I had enrolled on historical or literature forums related to some topics that fascinated me. When I happened to meet a place of expression that I felt not serious or where I felt to totally disagree with, I would quietly leave and hit the road...

If really Dumas effect is a charlots humbug, well, You trollers, please go your route... "It is unnecessary to push a drunkard who will eventually he fall by himself" (Confucius). But then strangely, all these trolls leaders changed multiple times their nicknames to return shortly to the battlefield ever more daring and by all means (parasitizing forums, parasitizing our FB page, created videos or web sites or even a anti-Dumas effect FB page ...). One of them even took the pain of writing a long letter to give a lesson to all editors of newspapers, radio and television who had had the temerity to relay the information of the effect Dumas through their media. Where things got interesting is when a profile study of some of these prolific trolls, we learned that they were ...executives of multinational energy companies ! ...very interesting! ...

2 / The absurd attacks:

Following the example of "Vade Mecum Dumas effect" document that met practical issues of the building of the sphere , we prepare a document "Quid Effect Dumas' that answer - as much as possible - the many rubbish information generated on various forums by " false rumors " apparently specialized in inept or slanderous criticism. You will discover a "blooper" that you can share with a smile if the thing amuses you. We would be crooks? Strange scammers who ask and offer no money sharing the discovery of JC., Liars? What would be the point for us to deceive others? We would be looking to advertise? For what purpose then? Unless be great masochistic what's the point of advertising to appear as impostors? We would finally be illuminated ? Oh , big deal, and of which sect? ... Followers of the rain temple , worshipers of Vishnu or Electricity fairy, unless JC is the avatar of Tesla, reincarnated on earth to accomplish his mission? ... AT the end of the day, excessive criticism becomes ridiculous ...let us move forward.

In passing, I note that the Office of the collective decided to sanctuarize this Facebook page which is a club intended to "friends" of Dumas effect that "like" publications. This is not a forum, there are many others who have blossomed on the web where all the critics / slanderers can spread at leisure. We accept the doubts and criticisms when they are expressed with respect for others but as soon as there is a slippage we delete offensive and banish posts with a "click" ! Besides, the common side of all these "wrongsayers" is that they never write private message or email us, it is always by publications on the wall, so they are clearly visible from all . Well too bad for them, it is easier for us to click on an icon...than for them to re-register again and again "fake FB profiles" to return to the charge ...

3 / most valuable support of physicists:

The most significant for me in the past two months is the rallying, discreet but determined, of several independent researchers, physicists and technicians, employees and retirees of national and international scientific organizations. These not only encourage us to persevere in the spirit of our approach but realize, in their turn, the Dumas sphere effect... on which they perform actions that had never been done before. And the prospects are extremely "promising"! The calculations and experimentation of the Nice report will largely be exceeded in terms of overunity performance when the heat release will be measured in a real calorimeter (without the losses observed in Nice), when stored joules in the ball will be incorporated, the vibration of the resonator , the radiance AND convection incorporated , and finally the production of hydrogen, oxygen and especially HELIUM (apparently important) by a spectrometer , which open dizzying physical perspectives. By the end of the year, things will move ...

You can not reduce the infinite field of the unknown territory known and narrow agreed-upon knowledge that dogmatic minds defend . "There are more things in the universe than our philosophy can imagine ," said Shakespeare. Lavoisier was a great chemist but the laws of thermodynamics date back to the nineteenth ... Today there is no energy crisis, but a crisis of ignorance maintained by the stupid greed of powerful feudal market organisations (oil, nuclear, banking), and sadly the blind submission of States, full-featured lacquais. Rely on those to enhance and develop free energy would be asking a crocodile to open a leather shop ! It is not in their nature to do so. And when we discover that the laboratory researches (i.e. scientific exploration) have been oriented by the economic interests of this world, one can wonder ...

The real energy transition, much talked about at the moment, will BE THAT OF OVERUNITY. The emergence of the latter at the four corners of the planet through sharing and mobilization of all the system -independent researcherswill ring the bell of the old world and the emergence of a new earth. A Gandhian, caring and non-violent revolution is on and nothing will stop it. a drop becomes a wave and a wave transforms inexorably into a flood because "nothing can stop an idea when its time has come" Victor Hugo said. JC, PAC and all the CA group can disappear stupidly in a plane crash, the process will continue and even demultiply because researchers are already experimenting in Canada, Australia, Africa and even China, the famous Effect of Dumas / Davey. They alter the physical characteristics, experimenting different metal alloys (silver / gold), play on frequencies, observe effects and many of them OBSERVE THE OVERUNITY !

Soon new experiments prove conclusively the reality of this access to free energy and this will indeed be a Copernican , scientific, sociological, economic and ultimately political. We will rock you into a new world that can only be better ...

Hi and brotherhood to all the friends of Dumas effect

Pierre Antoine Courouble

President of the Collective for Alternative Energy.

PS: That the members of our association to worry, we have some computer problems but we will soon write to them to thank them for their support and let them share the information we have for them. Thank you for your support.

Tom C wrote:

it lowers the temp required to cause vaporization.
Tom C
I must admit that I simply ignore how much joules you need to create such void.

However, the Dumas Sphere has been shown , demonstrated and expertized (no secret, no hiding of technology, everything is openly and generously shared for you), the Joules calculations were done and the yield at least 117% (COP1,17). It is said that this figure was the worst case scenario and only partially observed, that it is actually higher.

Tom C wrote:

Z,

backpopping the primary should be done when the battery is "off" so figure out where that is in the timing cycle. I leave it to you to give it a unique name...... I have done experiments where you can add a longer length of rods to the coil and hang a genny coil on it, which charges a cap and pulses to the battery with a magnetic reed switch driving a transistor.

Tom C
guys, apparently those posts are not related to the topic here.

For void distillation , I would suggets to create a separate post, because even if it is beautifully related, it is not the same, as per my understanding.

wrtner wrote:

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Can someone explain, without using a video or reference to one, how this invention works and how we can replicate it?
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wrtner, I believe you have downloaded the english manual ?
All you need to do is to go to the facebook homepage. type "effet dumas".
then look for "dumas effect resonator".
I will not duplicate the information here, that is already free, generously offered and complete.
a vade mecum has been published in addition, I will come back to post it when it is available in french.
you can if you want check my two replications here :
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check this french guy who is farther than me into a workable 400 watts house heating element setting, you'll be impressed :
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Hi guys,
well first I 'm happy to see you got the flavor that this invention, is easily replicable, and leads to a direct sea water desalination device for little electrical consumption.
Although I am still building and measuring, the effect can easily be produced. To get OU is also apparently easy, but the tuning can get you a little more time.
The ideal dimensions are that the upper half sphere has a constant 1,6 mm width spacing with the inner sphere - which can only be produced by a 3D printer, which the inventor doesn't have even on his POC and multiple prototypes. So himself, and many others since, have just "bought" more or less similar "half spheres" and have begun to replicate the effect with using washers in small increments. It is not difficult at all to repoduce. You could do this and go for a cheaper heating of your house by NEXT WINTER.
You will see instant vapor production, in good quantity. I am still working on the OU measurements and the watts consumption; I am working on the invento'rs sphere size and a bigger size , in my basement. however I trust the process to be OU, and the pain that the inventor and some others took to have it tested independently (10 or more , with a final public and experts certification test) . There has been a LOT of frontal opposition to the effect already - it seems that some people want it to be ridiculed. You already have false "facebook pages" and false "forums" on the web that have emerged, in immediate opposition and criticism to this discovery. in my very humble opinion they are almost all wrongdoes (some may be coming from honest non believers). Even hoaxbuster.com has emitted a "warning for hoax" on this one ! Without having spent one hour on the subject ? just with a team of gossipers ? I now tend to think hoaxbusters.com is a truly false hoaxbusting entity, if it ever been something else, such as quackwatch.com . To me, both are possible organs of propaganda ,( like wikipedia ? ).
I have modest experience in the effect and I believe so much in it. check a guy on youtube.com, his pseudo is "asstuss la bricole" and he already built 2 cheap heat generation machines from one Dumas sphere he built. He has been a source of inspiration ever since.

I'm telling one thing. France is a small country . If an inventor comes up with something and faces such opposition, - I believe first he's honest and second, he's found smoething of value for Humanity - take the ride right now. Because you will then become a first hand testimonial of the lies we are being fed with and most important - that Something has been decided that This should come to an end.

Greets my watts !!
hi herearii,
yes you are right for every point.
They have put up the translation of the Dumas ' Sphere here in english :
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I'm thinking of putting up a even more simple version , I 'll upload it later on and let you know.
Hi,
I have just uploaded my basic POC of the Dumas 's Sphere :
- a sphere that boils water into steam (hot steam visible in less than 10 seconds)
- that stays cold ( gets heated with the water being heated though)
- certain tuning appear to produce HHO (white foam).
Check the video I have uploaded for this :
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